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Bluesky is more open than you think.

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  • openstars@piefed.socialO [email protected]

    One issue for me, and this is also true of Mastodon and by extension Mbin, is that I greatly prefer the voting and focus on a topic area rather than person. X / Twitter / Mastodon / Bluesky is where celebrities go to increase their profits, fame, and relevance, while Reddit / Lemmy / PieFed (/ + nodeBB + flarum + others) are where we discuss matters of import. I'm not criticizing your post here - this is definitely the correct community to discuss such matters:-) - just interjecting my personal preferences into the conversation, to disclose my own biases.

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    #94

    I like both formats, but I do prefer forum-style conversation.

    https://frontpage.fyi/ is a link-aggregator built on atproto.

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      maybe open technically. but my impression of BlueSky is that it is full of neoliberal status quo apologists. would be happy to be wrong.

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      #95

      Yes, it is, but so is mastodon, if I curate my feed, I can exclude them from it.
      this is about the technical aspects of bluesky/atproto.

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      • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

        I like both formats, but I do prefer forum-style conversation.

        https://frontpage.fyi/ is a link-aggregator built on atproto.

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        #96

        Very nice 👌 I hope we will see more applications for these protocols as time passes.

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        • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

          I like both formats, but I do prefer forum-style conversation.

          https://frontpage.fyi/ is a link-aggregator built on atproto.

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          #97

          Last post 4 days ago, that makes Lemmy look like a beehive

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          • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

            Should BSky go login wall one day the same way Twitter does, then wafrn wouldn't be an alternative

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            #98

            The login wall is set by the user not by Bluesky. It’s a privacy setting

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            • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

              No, mastodon is more decentralised than bluesky, but its designed so that PDSes aren't that important, unlike mastodon.

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              I would argue that’s centralisation. Instances are inherently centralised, they own the user identity, relationships and data. A user “migration” which isn’t really a migration it’s an alt account on another server, if that server is blocking or is blocked then that users social graph can be significantly impacted. There’s no way to really migrate their content.

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                Last post 4 days ago, that makes Lemmy look like a beehive

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                #100

                Yeah, it doesn't even have communities.

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                • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

                  Yeah, it doesn't even have communities.

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                  #101

                  https://azsky.app/ tries to use Bluesky's feeds to simulate something like communities. I think it focuses too much on piggybacking off bsky content to be useful though, like forums and microblogs are different paradigms and a different UI isn't going to change that.

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                    The login wall is set by the user not by Bluesky. It’s a privacy setting

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                    I was talking about an enshittification scenario similar to Twitter

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                      I would argue that’s centralisation. Instances are inherently centralised, they own the user identity, relationships and data. A user “migration” which isn’t really a migration it’s an alt account on another server, if that server is blocking or is blocked then that users social graph can be significantly impacted. There’s no way to really migrate their content.

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                      #103

                      Instances are centralised, but the network isn't.

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                        In theory Bluesky users have the option to switch, but in practice they don't
                        36 Million users can't just switch to other servers only catering for ~15,000 users.

                        mastodon.social has ~30% of the active users, which is a lot, but if it went down Mastodon would continue working for most users.

                        You can't compare the 99.96% market share Bluesky has with that.

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                        Also: hosting PDSes is piss easy, if there was demand for people to move to other servers, more PDSes would pop up.

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