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it isn't particularly slow if you have enough RAM and it has indexed the project
I personally found VSCode slower.
You need a decent machine to run iJ, but it's worth it and it's really fast when you have enough RAM to give it. I recommend at least 32, but I have 64.
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What about Rider?
Is that a plugin?
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You guys use editors? Real programmers only need a mechanical hard drive, a magnetized needle and a steady hand.
Like a code tattoo.
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If you want everything bundled instead of à la carte, that sounds more like eclipse to me. But then, I don't understand how anyone can program in Java.
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Sorts? Not tabs in the way you'd expect but it's default ones can be sufficient
Honestly though once you get pretty good with hotkeys you stop using tabs, for all intents and purposes harpoon is tabs, but better, and without the UI. You just mentally usually pick harpoon keys that make sense to save jump points to, like I'll harpoon FooController.cs to
c
andFooService.cs
tos
andFooEntity.cs
toe
and so oneAnd the I jump around with those keys. Usually when working I only need tops 5 harpoon or so for a chunk of work.
Interesting workflow.
When I'm in Helix I usually just use the buffer jump list, or quick jump with last buffer, or open the list of modified files (according to git), or use splits. All built-in functionality.
It always baffled me with (neo)vim how it was so powerful, yet so incapable unless you put in a lot of work. The potential is there, it just doesn't deliver unless you basically build your own experience on top of the vim platform.
It got to be too much for me, I think.
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That's like:
Car with the dashboard and the switches all ripped out >>>>> A normal car >>>>> A stereotypical Arab sheik car, with a solid gold dashboard and a fancy infotainment system
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Being plugin based avoids bloat (doesn’t matter for code-oss because it’s electron)
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It is slower. It's a fully fledged IDE, VSCode is not so it will always be way faster, but that's again this meme, JetBrains IDE's are super powerful so I guess you can say what it lacks in speed it got in power. It's also written in Java so it's memory heavy, but it is what it is.
I use both and I enjoy both. I would never however use JetBrains to open and edit a single file, its way to slow for that.
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I use Visual Studio Code when I need to edit one files or two. JetBrains IDE when I'm starting a programming session.
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Being plugin based avoids bloat (doesn’t matter for code-oss because it’s electron)
Well, IntelliJ is also plugin based, it's just that most of the plugins are bundled and enabled by default and maintained by the same set of people as the core IDE, so there's consistent quality.
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Being plugin based avoids bloat (doesn’t matter for code-oss because it’s electron)
It also plays into their goal to make VS Code seem open source while being the opposite! A lot of the functionality is in the marketplace but non Microsoft products aren't legally allowed to use it and you're not allowed to distribute builds of the plugins.
Use VS Codium instead.
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You guys use editors? Real programmers only need a mechanical hard drive, a magnetized needle and a steady hand.
Looks at mr fancy pants over here with a magenetic disc. While im over here threading my code.
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Is that a plugin?
It's a separate Jetbrains IDE for .Net
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For me, they both fall into the "I can't stand this because it is too slow" category. So same difference. I have used vscode from time to time because I wanted to use certain plugins, but dropped it after a month or two every time STRICTLY because of performance (even without plugins). Like literally, the only reason I dropped it.
It's text editing. If it isn't instant, it's slow. Even for gui text editors, Sublime Text has had that dialed for like 15 years. VSCode intentionally traded performance for ecosystem (and to great success)! But imo, newer editors like Zed have better bones, and are going to slowly but surely eat their lunch.
edit: see other thread; but I guess vscode is instant if your machine is better than mine?
But not my experience.
Im not sure what you are doing but vscode is extremely fast unless you throw a several megabytes data file at it which then it bogs down. But even then, its only at loading the file since it loads the whole thing into memory instead of a buffer.
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Im not sure what you are doing but vscode is extremely fast unless you throw a several megabytes data file at it which then it bogs down. But even then, its only at loading the file since it loads the whole thing into memory instead of a buffer.
If it is fast enough for you, then that’s great. You should keep using it.
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Im not sure what you are doing but vscode is extremely fast unless you throw a several megabytes data file at it which then it bogs down. But even then, its only at loading the file since it loads the whole thing into memory instead of a buffer.
My laptop definitely prefers Emacs. VSCode is just another electron app after all.
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Having bunch of plugins built-in is not any better than having a bunch of plugins
Having a bunch of plugins built-in means also supported in updates and play nice with each other
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LunarVim is the lazy way forwards
development stopped for a year (I see activity resumed yesterday) and I jumped ship to LazyVim, it feels much better and possible to self maintain the entire setup.
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Lol "as good as intellij" what the actual fuck.
I cannot imagine how much worse you'd have to make vscode to make it as shit as intellij is. And even vscode is pretty shit.
Kotlin would be a great language if it wasn't hampered by that IDE.
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Really hoping Zed takes off, VSCode while versatile, feels clunky and slow
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No mention of KDevelop? ;__;
I like it because it is the pretty much only FOSS graphical IDE where the edit-compile-debug cycle works. I'm been using it for last 10y for C/C++/Python, and it recently gained LSP support. (ported from Kate)
Zed might be a good contender soon