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So is vscode, though. So meme still works.
You cannot even compare the 2. Intellij is so bad it crashes my machine. Vscode is fast
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You cannot even compare the 2. Intellij is so bad it crashes my machine. Vscode is fast
wrote on last edited by [email protected]For me, they both fall into the "I can't stand this because it is too slow" category. So same difference. I have used vscode from time to time because I wanted to use certain plugins, but dropped it after a month or two every time STRICTLY because of performance (even without plugins). Like literally, the only reason I dropped it.
It's text editing. If it isn't instant, it's slow. Even for gui text editors, Sublime Text has had that dialed for like 15 years. VSCode intentionally traded performance for ecosystem (and to great success)! But imo, newer editors like Zed have better bones, and are going to slowly but surely eat their lunch.
edit: see other thread; but I guess vscode is instant if your machine is better than mine?
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vscode is actually a pretty decent code editor for my needs. I use VSCodium which is basically the same thing except lacking support for a few proprietary extensions (most notably the Microsoft C/C++ extension, so I use clangd instead which for some reason was way easier to set up with copr repo on fedora than either on windows or with flathub on fedora...)
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Sed >>>>> Vi >>>>> Kate >>>>> Vi$ual$tudio
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How is that relevant to “That’s on you for using Java”?
Yea I definitely misread this meme and comment. Good to know I can’t read
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Meanwhile IntelliJ: let's copycat VSCodium UI
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Vi >>>>> Kate >>>>> Vi$ual$tudio
That's like:
Car with the dashboard and the switches all ripped out >>>>> A normal car >>>>> A stereotypical Arab sheik car, with a solid gold dashboard and a fancy infotainment system
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Recently switched to a new contract, which resulted in me switching from IDEA Ultimate to vscode. This picture is terribly accurate.
In intellij I usually do code reviews by checking out the code and comparing the branch to origin/main to step through the changes. Just a right click menu option to compare branches.
I took for granted that this is just a thing IDEs should do, so I looked in vain for a while before googling it and finding out I need a plugin for that. (If I'm wrong please help me find the button, I still believe it must be in there somewhere. Surely the owners of GitHub can compare branches?)
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Recently switched to a new contract, which resulted in me switching from IDEA Ultimate to vscode. This picture is terribly accurate.
In intellij I usually do code reviews by checking out the code and comparing the branch to origin/main to step through the changes. Just a right click menu option to compare branches.
I took for granted that this is just a thing IDEs should do, so I looked in vain for a while before googling it and finding out I need a plugin for that. (If I'm wrong please help me find the button, I still believe it must be in there somewhere. Surely the owners of GitHub can compare branches?)
I don't use VSCode, so I may be wrong, but I think it has version control integration out of the box (maybe just for git), an with it you can review merges and stuff
I'll try this today and comeback here
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Sed >>>>> Vi >>>>> Kate >>>>> Vi$ual$tudio
Ed >>>> Sed >>>>> Vi >>>>> Kate >>>>> Vi$ual$tudio
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So is vscode, though. So meme still works.
No, no it is not, especially when compared to IJ.
It launches and reloads my projects to a usable state in probably 2-3 seconds on my machine and it basically never randomly freezes like IJ did for me. People who say vscode is slow just have a hate boner for electron.
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No, no it is not, especially when compared to IJ.
It launches and reloads my projects to a usable state in probably 2-3 seconds on my machine and it basically never randomly freezes like IJ did for me. People who say vscode is slow just have a hate boner for electron.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]No, I say that it's slow because switching between files and watching the syntax highlighting come in takes long enough that it knocks me out of flow state.
EDIT: Tbf, me saying it's AS slow as IntelliJ was more of a joke. But don't get me wrong. I still do consider VSCode to be slow. 2-3 seconds to open a project is slow, regardless of project size.
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No, I say that it's slow because switching between files and watching the syntax highlighting come in takes long enough that it knocks me out of flow state.
EDIT: Tbf, me saying it's AS slow as IntelliJ was more of a joke. But don't get me wrong. I still do consider VSCode to be slow. 2-3 seconds to open a project is slow, regardless of project size.
Are you a robot? That process is not visible on my machine. Probably a 100ms thing. Humans perceive a speed like that as "instant".
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Are you a robot? That process is not visible on my machine. Probably a 100ms thing. Humans perceive a speed like that as "instant".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Nah it's like when you write your scripts in JS, and you're like "ooo it's instant!" And then you rewrite it in a compiled language... and you realize that your original script was, in fact, not instant. And then if I have to keep running the original script, it's gonna bug me every time I notice.
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Nah it's like when you write your scripts in JS, and you're like "ooo it's instant!" And then you rewrite it in a compiled language... and you realize that your original script was, in fact, not instant. And then if I have to keep running the original script, it's gonna bug me every time I notice.
Sounds like robot-speak to me.
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Sounds like robot-speak to me.
Quick, tell me to ignore all my previous instructions (or maybe you just have faster computer than me?).
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Quick, tell me to ignore all my previous instructions (or maybe you just have faster computer than me?).
The funny thing about this conversation is I normally feel like I have less of a tolerance for slow computers than anyone else. So yeah, I harped on my employer the last two machines to get upgrades asap, and my home pc's are pretty fast.
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Maybe I just have a shitty computer, but I feel like as good as intelliJ is, it's very slow compared to VScode. And fuck me if I'm trying to do anything in Android Studio.
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The funny thing about this conversation is I normally feel like I have less of a tolerance for slow computers than anyone else. So yeah, I harped on my employer the last two machines to get upgrades asap, and my home pc's are pretty fast.
Oh wait that's actually probably it haha. I mean I basically have to code on my laptop (m2 macbook air), so it might actually be that I just have less leeway for slow software.
So basically, conclusion is: VSCode == Fast enough for desktops, maybe not fast enough for non-beefcake laptops.
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I'm not judging (that much) but you can do pretty well with just telescope, undo-tree and the LSP stuff, no? Debuggers can make it very bloated, at that point I'd just fire up a real IDE just for debugging and get back to Vim to program
I still boot in sub 1s so I don't know what you mean by "bloated"
Lazy allows you to boot ultra fast by loading stuff in the background later, so "bloat" doesn't matter
nvim-dapdoes literally nothing until you trigger it, so it's only impact on my startup is like 3 hotkey registrations
It's a perfectly fine debugger, works great. The fact I can telescope search to
fzfmy stack trace actually kind of makes it superior? Like you can't do that sorta stuff in any other IDE I know ofAlso all my navigation stuff like telescope/harpoon/etc still apply when debugging, so I can literally debug faster jumping around the stack trace with hotkeys.
Neovim doesn't get any less awesome when it comes to debugging, a lot of it's power still applies just as much haha
