Happy No-more-USA Day
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How about a general strike? More than protests but non-violent.
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...yeah. Yeah, i mean, totally. Yeah.
Aaaaaaaaaanyways, im super into pacifism now.
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It’s a great way to get arrested or killed, scare people away from resistance for fear of their safety, and embolden fascism by turning a constitutionally protected peaceful resistance into a domestic threat.
How many people with guns do you estimate it takes to overthrow the largest military in the world by force?
Dude the president just declared birthright citizenship illegal and deployed the mari!es to crack down on peaceful protests against ice blatant violating the 4th amemdment.
Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. About your fucking constitution.
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How about a general strike? More than protests but non-violent.
The thing is that the average person in the US still have it pretty good, because they still have their bread and circus to distract them from the creeping fascist takeover.
When people refer to those instances in history where non-violent protest succeeded, the average person was much more afflicted, as in with literal risk of starvation or similar. Modern dictators have long since learnt that you just need to ensure very basic means of sustenance and a helluva lot of entertainment (provided with the willing help of the tech bro oligarchs), to keep the general populace content with events.
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I mean yes, but most of the gun owners in this country will rise up and stand on the side of tyranny.
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Dude the president just declared birthright citizenship illegal and deployed the mari!es to crack down on peaceful protests against ice blatant violating the 4th amemdment.
Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. About your fucking constitution.
No, he didn’t. He wrote an executive order. That’s not a law. It’s a directive to the executive branch, and we are in no way obligated to follow it as citizens.
SCOTUS ruled that a district judge cannot impose a nationwide injunction against the executive order. Each judge will now have to rule on the case of birthright citizenship independently. The 14th amendment is very clear.
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No, he didn’t. He wrote an executive order. That’s not a law. It’s a directive to the executive branch, and we are in no way obligated to follow it as citizens.
SCOTUS ruled that a district judge cannot impose a nationwide injunction against the executive order. Each judge will now have to rule on the case of birthright citizenship independently. The 14th amendment is very clear.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]He declared, and people are going along. 'Law' does not seem to matter here.
We are not obligated as citizens. Thats what the men with guns are for.
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Thats some tepid-ass bullshit for a part of thr constitution, it almost doesnt matter that the administration is going to wipe their asses with it.
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He declared, and people are going along. 'Law' does not seem to matter here.
We are not obligated as citizens. Thats what the men with guns are for.
scotus says
Thats some tepid-ass bullshit for a part of thr constitution, it almost doesnt matter that the administration is going to wipe their asses with it.
So because you believe something will happen, we should lead a small, unsuccessful, violent revolution to ensure that it does happen?
How about you keep your big feelings to yourself while the people who have successfully grown a resistance from a few hundred thousand to ~10M in four months continue to successfully plan and execute a real resistance.
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How about a general strike? More than protests but non-violent.
I think it will take more than that to take down a terrorist organization unfortunately
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So because you believe something will happen, we should lead a small, unsuccessful, violent revolution to ensure that it does happen?
How about you keep your big feelings to yourself while the people who have successfully grown a resistance from a few hundred thousand to ~10M in four months continue to successfully plan and execute a real resistance.
You use that phrase a lot. I feel like you're not actually reading what im typing.
It's not a resistance if it can't actually do anything. I'm not sure the milder thing is necessarily the easy sell.
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You use that phrase a lot. I feel like you're not actually reading what im typing.
It's not a resistance if it can't actually do anything. I'm not sure the milder thing is necessarily the easy sell.
What about growing numbers is confusing to you? 10M people is ~2% of our nation. We couldn’t collectively get anything done, yet. We’re growing a resistance through organized protests.
You clearly haven’t read enough on the topic. Do some research and then we can talk. Until then, your opinion is woefully uninformed.
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The state necessarily has a monopoly on violence; it’s part of what makes it the State. But what choice do the People have when the power of the state is seized by a group determined to use that power against its own population? The USA is famously “invasion proof” but there is nothing in place to protect us from such abuse. The only response that could stop a protracted guerilla style resistance is the total dissolution of the senate and house with immediate emergency elections to replace 100% of the members
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The state necessarily has a monopoly on violence; it’s part of what makes it the State. But what choice do the People have when the power of the state is seized by a group determined to use that power against its own population? The USA is famously “invasion proof” but there is nothing in place to protect us from such abuse. The only response that could stop a protracted guerilla style resistance is the total dissolution of the senate and house with immediate emergency elections to replace 100% of the members
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The monopoly on violence for the most part comes from the military, so the choice they have is a military coup. Problem is he's stacked the military with loyalists. But also what you said.
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The monopoly on violence for the most part comes from the military, so the choice they have is a military coup. Problem is he's stacked the military with loyalists. But also what you said.
He stacked military leadership with loyalists. It's still each and every individual soldiers responsibility to determine for themselves whether they will follow an order if they believe it to be unjust. Many in the military are Maga, but there will be many that would refuse such orders as well... Basically, I'm just trying to say the military isn't a hivemind. If orders came down to attack us citizens, I'd hope there'd be significant pushback throughout the ranks.
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I think I finally got it
I also needed the explanation
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I'll believe it when I see it. The Americans seem perfectly content with how things are.
The MAGAts are the ones content. Majority are not.
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He stacked military leadership with loyalists. It's still each and every individual soldiers responsibility to determine for themselves whether they will follow an order if they believe it to be unjust. Many in the military are Maga, but there will be many that would refuse such orders as well... Basically, I'm just trying to say the military isn't a hivemind. If orders came down to attack us citizens, I'd hope there'd be significant pushback throughout the ranks.
Refuse an order, get court martialled despite all your rights, get dishobourably discharged and lose your livelihood, all for some people you dont know, and greatly negatively affect the lives of those you provide for.
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The state necessarily has a monopoly on violence; it’s part of what makes it the State. But what choice do the People have when the power of the state is seized by a group determined to use that power against its own population? The USA is famously “invasion proof” but there is nothing in place to protect us from such abuse. The only response that could stop a protracted guerilla style resistance is the total dissolution of the senate and house with immediate emergency elections to replace 100% of the members
Be careful though, emergency dissolution of the Senate is exactly how Palpatine gained power. There has to be a careful plan and new system ready to go and not just fall to the one person it shouldn't.
I know it's fiction, but just saying. Dissolving it is one thing, but having a coherent plan is another.
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Whoa now. That's dangerously close to sounding reasonable. We don't do that here.
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I can't tell if these people are Russian agents trying to undermine Western culture, or just rabid morons who want to create misery for even more people. Either way, this kind of post is my least favorite thing about lemmy.
"western culture"
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