Need a keyboard with a dedicated "slop" button
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ITT: exactly what the tweet was about.
(Edit: It was a tumblr post.)Y'all just saw "AI" and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.
you could be talking about video game AI... but are you?
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See! Immediate attack on me. You don't know anything about be and what I believe.
If you take offense at what I said, that implies you believe something else. Believing something else other than the truth makes you either dumb or brainwashed or both. See how easy it is to apply logic when you're not letting a mindless computer do your "thinking"?!
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Art can be made out of literally anything. Trash, pieces of fabric, some chalk on a sidewalk, spray cans, arrangement of random objects, sea shells, etc. People will still love to look at shitty sketches and cute chibis and eagerly repost that art. Your medium doesn't have to be just paper and pencil, nor just an expensive digital screen and a paid paint program, but even then digital can be free. Kritia, MS Paint, Sketchbook, IbisPaint, Fossify Paint, and many more are free and easy to download on Android. Procreate is cheap and loved by many. There are people doing this shit on their phone with their finger and a lot of determination.
None of these artists started out making masterpieces, they had to take the time to get to where they are and learn. Thousands of free tutorials are online, on both YT and other social media platforms, for any kind of art medium. Years of work and practicing every day. Even for those who are making masterpieces now, they take probably days or weeks to finish off a major project, they can't just pump that shit out.
If you can't draw or photoshop images well, that's fine, as not everyone is able to do that skill. I want to learn to draw, but I can recognize that I probably don't have to time right now in my life to do that, nor will I likely be able to reach the level I dream of, and I accept that. But the moment you decide to get mad at the people opposing AI art and using AI to Photoshop, or you yourself ever use AI to do such acts, then I will gladly call you a lazy bastard. You can't have your cake without the effort that others put in to do it, and if you're doing it for commercial purposes, you should be dragged through the streets.
Art is art because a human put their thoughts and feelings behind it. It causes discussion, whether good, bad, happy, angry, etc. AI art is only amazing on the surface, "wow, we have the tech to do this" and then it stops being amazing. Either way am artist/digital designer or don't make whatever it is you wanted. Using AI to make art is embarrassing.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Art can be made out of literally anything.
Such as LLMs.
Art is art because a human put their thoughts and feelings behind it.
You don't think there's any thought put into AI art by the creators?
Art is art, it doesn't matter what tool or medium was used, what matters is it reflects the artists intention or vision.
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If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn't see any ai slop button on these.
Fucking love my Framework 16 and I'll tell everyone every chance I get.
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AI is like I dog shit on a sidewalk: I go out of my way to avoid it.
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You're correct in a technical sense but incorrect in a social sense. In 2025, "AI" in the common vernacular means LLMs. You can huff and puff about it, and about how there are plenty of non-LLM AIs out there. But you might as well complain that people mean silicon-based Turing-complete machines when they refer to a "computer," even though technically a computer can mean many other things. You might as well be complaining about how a computer could refer to someone that does calculations by hand for a living. Or you could refer to something like Babbage's difference engine as a computer. There are many things that can technically fall under the category of "computer." But you know damn well what people are saying when they describe a computer. And hell, in common vernacular, a smart phone isn't even a "computer," even though it literally is just a computer. Words have both technical and vernacular meanings.
In 2025, in the language real speak in the real world, "AI" is a synonym for "LLM."
That's really the crux of this stupid argument. Is a neural network that analyzes x-rays before handing them to a doctor AI? I would say no. At this point, AI means "over hyped LLM and other generalist models." But the person trying to judge others over AI would say yes.
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I mean, I don’t believe copyright should even exist. But if that’s true, then companies likewise need to release all their models freely to the public, which they won’t.
“Copyright for me, not for thee” seems to be the mantra.
That is exactly how they are using these models.
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No idea what you are talking about. The largest majority cals LLMs artificial intelligence. Because lnguistically, LLM is simply a subtyp of AI.
In public discourse and marketing, “AI” has become a blanket term for anything that learns and writes like a human, and LLMs fit the bill. So as a linguistic shortcut, when LLMs got popular, people replaced that specific kind of AI with just “AI. By definition, an LLM is a kind of AI, a specialized system trained on massive text to generate language, making it a clear hyponym of AI. That relationship justifies calling LLMs simply AI.
There is also because of generic reference: It's easier to say "I used AI" than to specify "I prompted a 175B‑parameter transformer model."
I sorry dude, but these are jusy linguistic mechanism at play. You can shout and complain so you want, it's AI. It's AI. Get over it, find a different hill to die on.
Yes, keep using language that implies amuch greater ability than it has. Keep using marketing terms that these corporations want you to use. Yes, keep simping for the rich people trying to make employees obsolete. They definitely won't replace you as soon as "AI" is no longer a misnomer!
Your ignorance only makes you pathetic.
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It’s AI the same way the CPU players in NHL ‘94 are AI
The video game industry has it's own definition of what an "AI" is, which is very different than everywhere else.
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To a layman, no it's not and should not be viewed as the same, either. One is a MASSIVE stack of precomputed matrices (NOT a neural network), the other a stack of predetermined algorithms with some random() thrown in.
They are all actually and literally completely different in form, function, and computing requirement.
The precomputed matrices are definitely a neural network. GPT literally stands for generative pre-trained transformer, a transformer being a well known neural network architecture.
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ITT: exactly what the tweet was about.
(Edit: It was a tumblr post.)Y'all just saw "AI" and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.
But tbf 'AI' in current public discourse and pop culture is (annoyingly) used synonymously with 'LLM' more often than not
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Until we fundamentally invent a new algorithmic approach to ML then there will be no more progress made in the abilities of AI.
So it's here and it's finished for a long time. Now is when you make a judgment on the validity of a new tech.
And this tech has been all marketing and no substance besides the ML applications we have been using them for since the 90s.
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If I'm seeing the word "AI" outside of academic research or shitposting, it's almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.
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The precomputed matrices are definitely a neural network. GPT literally stands for generative pre-trained transformer, a transformer being a well known neural network architecture.
No, a neural network is explicitly a type of architecture that mimics neurons. A transformer is just that: a methematical operation.
You're making the mistake of calling a backhoe a "tractor" just because it's also used for moving dirt around... Yes, both are heavy machinery, but that doesn't magically make the terms interchangeable.
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you could be talking about video game AI... but are you?
I wasn't talking about AI at all, I was talking about people talking about AI.
AFAICT the OP was talking about vocaloid.
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No, a neural network is explicitly a type of architecture that mimics neurons. A transformer is just that: a methematical operation.
You're making the mistake of calling a backhoe a "tractor" just because it's also used for moving dirt around... Yes, both are heavy machinery, but that doesn't magically make the terms interchangeable.
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Like I said. You're mixing your terms. Linking a paper does not prove you understand what you're talking about.
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Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.
Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.
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It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:
Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
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Like I said. You're mixing your terms. Linking a paper does not prove you understand what you're talking about.
Then explain to me how the neural networks behind LLMs are not mimicking neurons. Because that's the basic idea behind all of deep learning.
