Mandatory jail term for Nazi salute under new hate crime rules in Australia

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Kudos to Australia. Leon Hitler should travel there, have his arrested and deposited in the middle of the Great Australian Desert.

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Elon is mature enough and to know better and I'm not defending him. But my argument is not that they would do it inadvertently, but that they would do it without understanding the significance. I feel like you keep trying to bully me into a position I don't hold...

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It is impossible for me to bully you over Lemmy. It is possible to say offensive things about autistic people, though. Maybe you shouldn't. Unless you have an actual example of this happening.

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Yeah makes no sense & you sound like an idiot. Maybe they should lock you up for what you just said.

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Yes. I also saw a lot of fascist Democrats this last election unable to figure out why no one wanted to take orders from them. Toy think the oligarchy cares about the laws. No one enforced the law.

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No, I don't think banning the nazi salute will make much of a difference as far as hate group recruitment. I also don't think it would be easy, at least in the US. Mileage may vary in other countries, of course.

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I don’t really understand this whole “free speech” thing. If it were ww2 would you be worried about nazis having free speech or would you do what needed to be done?

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More like Israel why do you show your population non-stop propaganda & conscript them to join your military & engage in psyops & social media influence on your behalf. This is all verifiable on Wikipedia BTW with references.

Also no one cares that they get called Nazis. I care when you start locking people up for expressing themselves in ways that are non violent. Lock up all the Nazis assaulting people you want, but when you start assaulting people for what they wear or hand signs they make, then you become the violent criminal.

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Nope. They were perfectly legal as they were ordered by the government.

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I'm gonna be generous and assume the original commenter meant "Aboriginals on average have significantly worse outcomes compared to non-aboriginal Australians due to historical persecution"

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Freedom of speech was created so citizens could feel safe criticising the government, not so they could spout hatred about people who were different to them. You can say whatever the fuck you want, up until it makes others unsafe, that doesn't mean oh they say bad words and im offended, or i don't like them promoting that candidate over the one i like that has christian* values. No, that means you words and actions intentionally incite hatred and violence.

All this hiding behind free speech shite thats been happening for a very long time has just given the shit cunts the courage to be shit cunts. And now because the US shat the bed and its been spreading the world, the rest of the world needs to sanitise.

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You are intentionally mischaracterizing my stance and then being preachy and condescending about it. It's pretty annoying so I'm going to move on.

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Obviously not.

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That's a fair and accurate statement.

"Aboriginals don't have rights" is false, hyperbolic, and unhelpful.

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Any good tech companies in Australia? How hard are the citizenship requirements if you avoid all the Mel Gibsons?

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I can't see this actually happening since people who continue to commit crime, are re-released on bail.

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Redefining the freedom of speech can be a slippery slope. It will depend upon who is in power and their personal views. Hate speech is something that can be targetted. There would need to be statutory limitations to prevent misuse of the legislative principles. If the Germans can do it right, so can we, wherever we live.

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Slippery slope

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time has just given the shit cunts the courage to be shit cunts

There's something to be said for that, knowing they are shit cunts.

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Maybe Musk should take one of his Boeing Cyberplanes to Australia

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Mandatory jail term for Nazi salute under new hate crime rules in Australia