Mandatory jail term for Nazi salute under new hate crime rules in Australia

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

Even Jewish people defend Nazis right to free speech:

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/the-skokie-case-how-i-came-to-represent-the-free-speech-rights-of-nazis

But go ahead & tell everyone how saluting is a hate crime. Now imagine your right to protest, or say something negative about the President being taken away because you didn't like free speech.

[ziggurat@fedia.io]

Many countries do have hate-speech laws, and law against Nazi propaganda.

As usual intent and context matters, but I don't see why you should defend the right to use racial slur in a racist manier

[whatamlemmy@lemmy.world]

Don't kid yourself. Australia is also an oligarchy where corporations get most of what they want passed within weeks, with little to no debate, while popular and inconsequential policies are given months or years of debate, so the murdoch/oligarch propaganda machine can distract the public and tell them how to think.

There is no chance in hell either major party would imprison a fascist dictators right hang man. They're both corporate whores at heart, with little/no virtue.

[kusimulkku@lemm.ee]

One year's mandatory jail term for any "hate-related offenses" seems a bit far imo. Should be just a fine at least for first offense, unless it's some physical attack and stuff like that.

[kusimulkku@lemm.ee]

Retroactive laws are a horrible idea

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

Multiple front page Reddit articles about this as well. Look at the downvote ratio compared to discussions. Israel just pulling the strings as usual & everyone is falling for it, as they plan to take over Gaza & call you all Nazis for opposing it.

[flashmobofone@lemmy.world]

Agreed.

I'm so sick of this absolutist free speech bullshit that wants to make room for terrorist ideologies to hide.

[rottingleaf@lemmy.world]

That's a bit too much. That's a country with Gallipoli battles being matter of national myth, right? And they use it the way of praising WWI Ottomans as a worthy enemy. That'd be Young Turks, that'd be the genocide of Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks in those very years.

Jail for a salute seems a bit unbalanced.

[th3d3k0y@lemmy.world]

To be clear, the article calls the salute a hate crime. I'm restating it in my comment since it's relevant to my question.

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

Because it isn't physically violent. Black Democrats are out there making racial comments about white people as well. I don't think they should be locked up, do you?

[juice@midwest.social]

Sending people to jail is a great way to make sure they don't spend time embroiled in Nazi ideology on every level. Probably the best way to make sure someone never comes in contact with a single particle of Nazism, is to send them to prison.

(Can you tell I'm american?)

[jaybone@lemmy.world]

He’s gonna get starlink to burn insects like with a magnifying glass. Maybe the Jewish space lasers were Nazi space lasers all along.

[oldchicoale@lemmy.world]

They're projecting like always.

[tja@programming.dev]

There is no free speech absolutism. Dare to criticize him or make fun of him and you are banned and ostracized. It's a Nazi enablement pure and simple.

[sterile_technique@lemmy.world]

In their defense, that's the only thing lasers know how to do.

[sterile_technique@lemmy.world]

Even Jewish people defend Nazis right to free speech

How did that work out for them?

[ashar@infosec.pub]

Yeah. How about from 1948?

[shinkantrain@lemmy.ml]

*Unless applied in benefit

[jumuta@sh.itjust.works]

a paywall for a moral breach sounds like a horrendous idea

[chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz]

A hard line angled up at about 45 degrees.