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  • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV This user is from outside of this forum
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    What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

    Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

    How do these despots think that food arrives?

    At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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    • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

      What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

      Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

      How do these despots think that food arrives?

      At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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      The end game is a cyberpunk-esque corporate controlled future. No government, only companies deciding what's happening. Yes, slavery essentially, because people have to work for them to survive. No "less work" savings because of rising productivity, only more and more money centralized in them.

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      • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

        What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

        Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

        How do these despots think that food arrives?

        At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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        And don't forget turning into a vassal state to the Kremlin. Ol' Kraznov and his Cuck are going to sell us all out to Putin - if we allow him to.

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        • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

          What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

          Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

          How do these despots think that food arrives?

          At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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          WW3 is coming. It is the solution to climate change that does not alter the oligarchy; it is a population problem from their point of view. No need to fix pollution or the environment if there are less than 1 billion humans on Earth. That buys at least another century of business as usual. This is the obvious solution for anyone without ethics to arrive at. If you do not have hundreds of millions of dollars now, you will be eliminated one way or another in the coming conflict. Wars have always been the primary form of population control in feudal societies. Thus the emergence of neo feudalism. You must have no access, communication, ownership, or rights so that you can be forced into the death grinder.

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          • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

            What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

            Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

            How do these despots think that food arrives?

            At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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            Three-way RISK to hoard resources, nuclear winter to hail Mary climate, a domed city, and a bunch of women on a spaceship with Elons kids and Y-chromosomes.

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            • emberleaf@lemmy.mlE [email protected]

              And don't forget turning into a vassal state to the Kremlin. Ol' Kraznov and his Cuck are going to sell us all out to Putin - if we allow him to.

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              We're allowing him to.

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              • emberleaf@lemmy.mlE [email protected]

                And don't forget turning into a vassal state to the Kremlin. Ol' Kraznov and his Cuck are going to sell us all out to Putin - if we allow him to.

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                Indeed. But does it really matter who sells who which area of land, with all the people and other natural resources contained within the area, if it just leads to a future where the rich stay rich, the people (of the areas) stay poor, and the bombings never cease?

                As to the question: a desolate, corporation-owned and capitalistically-ran dystopian hellscape apparently?

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                  Three-way RISK to hoard resources, nuclear winter to hail Mary climate, a domed city, and a bunch of women on a spaceship with Elons kids and Y-chromosomes.

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                    WW3 is coming. It is the solution to climate change that does not alter the oligarchy; it is a population problem from their point of view. No need to fix pollution or the environment if there are less than 1 billion humans on Earth. That buys at least another century of business as usual. This is the obvious solution for anyone without ethics to arrive at. If you do not have hundreds of millions of dollars now, you will be eliminated one way or another in the coming conflict. Wars have always been the primary form of population control in feudal societies. Thus the emergence of neo feudalism. You must have no access, communication, ownership, or rights so that you can be forced into the death grinder.

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                    Nah, that population thing doesn't seem to add up to me, otherwise they wouldn't have done everything they have to ban women's reproductive rights and right to abortion...

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                    • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                      What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                      Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                      How do these despots think that food arrives?

                      At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                      The hour is later than we know regarding climate change. Authoritarianism is the only way for governments to maintain control for as long as possible, protecting the powerful.

                      Collapse of civilization is right around the corner.

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                      • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                        What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                        Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                        How do these despots think that food arrives?

                        At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                        Simple. We are on the express to cyberpunk (the literary genre).

                        Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a dystopian futuristic setting said to focus on a combination of "low-life and high tech". It features futuristic technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cyberware, juxtaposed with societal collapse, dystopia or decay.

                        Cyberpunk plots often involve conflict between artificial intelligence, hackers, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth...

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                        • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                          WW3 is coming. It is the solution to climate change that does not alter the oligarchy; it is a population problem from their point of view. No need to fix pollution or the environment if there are less than 1 billion humans on Earth. That buys at least another century of business as usual. This is the obvious solution for anyone without ethics to arrive at. If you do not have hundreds of millions of dollars now, you will be eliminated one way or another in the coming conflict. Wars have always been the primary form of population control in feudal societies. Thus the emergence of neo feudalism. You must have no access, communication, ownership, or rights so that you can be forced into the death grinder.

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                          I don’t see how you can possibly be certain about this. The push to fight abortion rights and the constant bitching about how people aren’t having enough babies to maintain the workforce undermines this theory.

                          Unless you’re completely convinced that this is the future and the reason for it, I’d strongly suggest against stating it so certainly on the internet. Asking a question about it or stating it as a possibility given certain factors makes sense, but the way you said this can’t be good for your mental health, or the mental health of the people who read it.

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                            Nah, that population thing doesn't seem to add up to me, otherwise they wouldn't have done everything they have to ban women's reproductive rights and right to abortion...

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                            That is a control issue. They target groups they wish to control (e.g. Conservative Christians) and they tackle one of their major issues/needs to get the group into their pocket. CC want to oppression women, destroy minorities and LGBTQ. So the billionaires fund all this hateful shit to get CC to vote and support who the billionaires want in power. That is why the Orange one is president, he is an easily controlled idiot who handed over the keys to Mr Swastikar.

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                            • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                              What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                              Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                              How do these despots think that food arrives?

                              At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                              I don't think they know for sure where it will end up but no matter what it will be, it will be brilliant, it will be the greatest, and it will have been the plan all along.

                              Rich people like to keep their money. So the only objective right now is to dismantle the oversight within government. It's not government efficiency they're after but removal of impediments to big business interests. That's the Melon side of the plan. It's his ROI. It's also is MO. Tabula Rasa everything and then build anew. It didn't work for Twitter. I don't think it will work for a federal government. We've already seen lots of unintended side effects. Oops, we fired the guys who look after the nukes. Lives will be lost here and there but, cynically, not enough to mobilize the masses.

                              It is of course worrying that Trump said as much as wanting to enlarge the US again. I'm not sure yet if that's just a dead cat he's thrown on table to distract us from Melon or if that's really the plan. It worried the US NATO ally Denmark enough to massively increase their defense budget over Greenland. Trump likes to be contrarian. He feeds off the stir he causes. He never built the wall, Mexico never paid for it. But he reveled in the reactions. Greenland could be a similar thing but I'm not sure yet.

                              It's worrying me the amount of sh!t the lgbtq+ community is getting, especially the T. There is danger there. I don't think Trump cares an awful lot about this issue, he just likes it as a way to unite the sleepy, the anti-woke behind him. But there are people behind him and with power now that do care, that do want to please their leader. And that creates a maelstrom of zealous a-holes trying to one-up each other with cruelty to score browny points with the boss. When I think this through, I fear citizen liberty is most under threat here.

                              I don't believe a world war with nukes is what they're after. You cannot really prosper as a corporation if the planet is barely habitable due to the radiation and the nuclear winter. It would be bad for Wall Street. But they wouldn't mind a few conflicts comparable to Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. While nukes have been threatened, they haven't been used. So it's a conventional war and that's good for arms manufacturers.

                              In simple terms, Trump's cozying up to Vlad actually decreases the threat of a world war III, at least in the short term. It reduces the number of trouble hotspots. There were big ones between the US and Russia (until January 25) and between the US and China. Trump parroting Kremlin talking points and showing the rest of NATO the middle finger reduces hotspots with Russia. Russia is on relatively friendly terms with China and could probably meditate issues between China and the US. At least in the short term, that's not a bad thing. But it isn't stable. It remains to be seen if Europe plus Canada plus X can fill the vacuum and that would reignite hotspots with Russia again.

                              I do agree that climate change poses a threat. I don't think the billionaires worry so much about it beyond buying New Zealand and blanketing it with villas with bunkers. But it is a threat to maintaining order when the people get hit with more severe tornados, droughts, etc. Best way to maintain order is an authoritarian government.

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                                The end game is a cyberpunk-esque corporate controlled future. No government, only companies deciding what's happening. Yes, slavery essentially, because people have to work for them to survive. No "less work" savings because of rising productivity, only more and more money centralized in them.

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                                These guys aren't corporate though

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                                • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                                  What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                                  Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                                  How do these despots think that food arrives?

                                  At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                                  So far, seems to be a poor bid at reindustrializing, as the US is failing to keep up with China's growth and will see its global Hegemonic status falling. More than anything, it seems like the current admin are "true believers" of the lies the architects of Empire concocted to justify their tools, hence why the current admin is gutting USAID and other forms of soft power exertion.

                                  The US can't re-industrialize without Socialism, so it will flounder until it collapses via revolution as it dies a slow death.

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                                  • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                                    What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                                    Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                                    How do these despots think that food arrives?

                                    At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                                    Look up curtis yarvin. That's basically their ideology. So 100s or 1000s of city states scattered around north America. Mostly dominated by either the religious extreme or tech bros and ai.

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                                      The hour is later than we know regarding climate change. Authoritarianism is the only way for governments to maintain control for as long as possible, protecting the powerful.

                                      Collapse of civilization is right around the corner.

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                                      Collapse of civilization is right around the corner.

                                      I wouldn't be so sure. History is filled with examples of power grabs that endured for generations.

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                                        What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?

                                        Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?

                                        How do these despots think that food arrives?

                                        At the moment it seems they're hell bent on global destruction.

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                                        I think once the singularity is reached with AI, it will quickly be able to take over all systems (including banking). I believe that it will be benevolent and will help humanity reach enlightenment. Most people will get an early retirement. But, some people such as Musk, Zuck, Bezos, will be considered essential and will be required to assist the AI and their robot armies in the fields, restaurants, factories, etc. I’m thinking we would only need about 1% of the population to work at that time, the top 1% are the best candidates.

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                                          Look up curtis yarvin. That's basically their ideology. So 100s or 1000s of city states scattered around north America. Mostly dominated by either the religious extreme or tech bros and ai.

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                                          Ah, shit man.

                                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

                                          Yarvin has influenced some prominent Silicon Valley investors and Republican politicians, with venture capitalist Peter Thiel described as his "most important connection".[15] Political strategist Steve Bannon has read and admired his work.[16] U.S. Vice President JD Vance "has cited Yarvin as an influence himself."[17][18][19] Michael Anton, the State Department Director of Policy Planning during Trump's second presidency, has also discussed Yarvin's ideas.[20] In January 2025, Yarvin attended a Trump inaugural gala in Washington; Politico reported he was "an informal guest of honor" due to his "outsize influence over the Trumpian right."[21]

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