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Borderlands 2 is temporarily free to grab on Steam, as it continues to be review bombed for non-Randy Pitchford tweet reasons

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  • L [email protected]

    You will not use exploits or illegal or unauthorised means to interfere with or adversely impact any other user’s ability to use the services as intended; to gain unfair gameplay advantage; or to gain access to virtual items or other content to which you do not have valid entitlement. This includes the use of cheats or so-called ‘mod menus’, unauthorised mods, hacks, glitches, or any other technical exploits, and phishing, scamming, or social engineering.

    In legalese, does 'this includes' mean 'additionally' or 'specifically'?

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    #41

    Also note that this is for a game without competitive multiplayet

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    • B [email protected]

      Please forgive my ignorance. What if we already have the game on Steam? Do I have to approve something? Or do they just have that access now?

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      #42

      The game being free now doesn’t change anything. Just like any update to a game everyone got it.

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      • R [email protected]

        Borderlands 3 has such insanely horrible writing though.

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        #43

        imho people tend to exaggerate nowadays when it comes to that stuff.

        the writing isnt "horrible" its just not the best in the series. i found it to be alright, honestly.

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        • G [email protected]

          i know about that. i also know its quite overblown. their EULA is no different than all of them.

          That’s quite an ignorant statement to make, just because you don’t care about what you sign up for doesn’t mean other’s don’t as well.

          but no malware has been installed.

          a root kit is quite literally a type of malware, you agreed to malware being installed to your machine at any point in time and if not when it does bite you in the ass you can’t sue for damages.

          With your current mindset you might as well be on Reddit like all the other sheeple.

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          #44

          check my edit thanks and have a pleasant evening.

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          • L [email protected]

            You will not use exploits or illegal or unauthorised means to interfere with or adversely impact any other user’s ability to use the services as intended; to gain unfair gameplay advantage; or to gain access to virtual items or other content to which you do not have valid entitlement. This includes the use of cheats or so-called ‘mod menus’, unauthorised mods, hacks, glitches, or any other technical exploits, and phishing, scamming, or social engineering.

            In legalese, does 'this includes' mean 'additionally' or 'specifically'?

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            #45

            Additionally.

            It's outlaying the parameters and then it goes on to give some common examples so a rational actor can get a good idea behind the meaning of the parameters. It's not an exhaustive list of all activities that could violate their parameters.

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            • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

              Additionally.

              It's outlaying the parameters and then it goes on to give some common examples so a rational actor can get a good idea behind the meaning of the parameters. It's not an exhaustive list of all activities that could violate their parameters.

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              wrote on last edited by [email protected]
              #46

              Does it blanket forbid those even if individual examples of those things don't violate the parameters in the beginning or does it forbid them only if a particular instance under those categories violates the first part?

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              • L [email protected]

                Does it blanket forbid those even if individual examples of those things don't violate the parameters in the beginning or does it forbid them only if a particular instance under those categories violates the first part?

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                #47

                Can you give an example? Purely for academic intrigue... Not advisement purposes.

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                • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                  Buuuuuuuuuut they changed the EULA and now it has root level access to your system. As in its literally spyware.

                  Fuck free. You couldn't pay me to install this shit. Do so at your own risk. I want less massive corporations rooting around in my stuff. Not more.

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                  #48

                  You mean like you don't play Civilization because of having the same problematic 2K EULAs or watch YouTube because of its Terms of Service?

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                  • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                    Can you give an example? Purely for academic intrigue... Not advisement purposes.

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                    #49

                    Any mod or glitch you use in a singleplayer game. Reshade could be considered a 'mod menu'

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                    • L [email protected]

                      Any mod or glitch you use in a singleplayer game. Reshade could be considered a 'mod menu'

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                      #50

                      That's a grey area, that you may win if this hypothetical were litigated. Their parameters are broad and vague, so I could easily see a claim that it is unfairly giving you a better game play than others. Nothing about their parameters mentions multiplayer, so one would assume it apply's to all play styles.

                      In the extremely unlikely scenario this came to some kind of litigation the determining factor would probably be the question of whether there is anyway for players to compare single player gameplay at all in a reasonable way? If they have a leader board for single player or anything like that, including even social media tracking single player stats then I think it's possible it is determined to be giving an unfair advantage.

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