How JavaScript Overuse Ruined the Web

[0x0@programming.dev]

Neglects to mention some of the slowness is real-time ad auctions.

[columbus@lemmy.world]

People use the internet without adblockers?

[muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee]

I found htmx the other day looks like a good fix for most of the js bullshit

[hansolo@lemm.ee]

I don't use the internet with less than a hazmat suit.

[rottingleaf@lemmy.world]

Most of the web now is like that article.

AI has a role in turning pages and pages of text into one sentence.

[telorand@reddthat.com]

Surprisingly, yes. I'm flabbergasted every time someone says, "I'm tired of these ads. I'm going to download an adblocker. Got any recommendations?"

[pennomi@lemmy.world]

I got bad news for you… htmx is written in JavaScript.

[muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee]

Yeah but I'd rather 1 piece of js instead of 6000

[icastfist@programming.dev]

Normies do. They vastly outnumber the "barely computer literate"

[pennomi@lemmy.world]

Yeah I was being a little sarcastic. I agree that using a single lightweight framework is ideal.

Runtime js for rendering your page is still bad for performance of course. Best to use static html where possible.

[floofloof@lemmy.ca]

AI has a role in turning pages and pages of text into one sentence.

Right now it's generally used the other way round.

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

Much like conservatives think someone who talks a lot with conviction is right.

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

NoScript ftw

[columbus@lemmy.world]

It took me 3 hours to think and write that article. Maybe you wouldn't call it AI generated if it was actually AI generated.

[torfdot0@lemmy.world]

I appreciate you taking time out to write that. I enjoyed reading it, I think what the parent comment was trying to offer as criticism is that it ended sort of abruptly. I was hoping for a couple more paragraphs on either examples of modern sites or platforms that don’t overly rely on js or a way for end users to use these sites loading only the bare minimum js.

I could just google that information but I was enjoying your point of view. Anyway that’s just my 2 cents

[cashsky@sh.itjust.works]

Great now nothing works 🫠

[cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

How current web developers no longer knowing what graceful degradation is ruining the web

[alk@sh.itjust.works]

Has saved my life. I find myself disabling it for an entire tab several times per day to do things like make a purchase or log in, but I'd still rather that than not have it on the rest of the sites.

[cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I like NoScript but I miss the old XUL version of NoScript.

[balder1991@lemmy.world]

I mean, this post makes no valid argument against JavaScript, there’s no benchmarks or anything aside from an opinion.

I don’t personally like webdev and don’t like to code in JavaScript, but there are good and bad web applications out there, just like any software.

A single page can send out hundreds or even thousands of API requests just to load, eating up CPU and RAM.

The author seems to know the real problem, so I don’t know why they’re blaming it on JavaScript.