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Cheeto devouring his nation

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    This is based on Goya's famous painting "Saturn Devouring His Son", if anyone was wondering.

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    Imo in this original painting Saturn is horrified either to be doing this at all, or to be seen doing it.

    So I don't think the poetry transfers to trump here.

    I know this is shit posts but we're also discussing high art so...

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

      True, I just always want to know the facts about everything, no matter how insignificant, for historical posterity and my own curiosity.

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      Part of this art is that there really are no "facts". It was painted on the wall of his home some time before his death but wasn't found before he died. He never gave it a name or said anything about it.

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

        One of my favorites. I wish we knew if that's really what he intended to depict - people just guessed.

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        Yeah he didn't even actually name this painting. We really don't know who the subjects are for sure.

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          Yeah he didn't even actually name this painting. We really don't know who the subjects are for sure.

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          4 feet tall and painted directly onto the wall of his dining room, too. My kinda guy.

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            Imo in this original painting Saturn is horrified either to be doing this at all, or to be seen doing it.

            So I don't think the poetry transfers to trump here.

            I know this is shit posts but we're also discussing high art so...

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            It's hard to say for sure. I always interpreted his expression as maniacal rather than horrified.

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            • V [email protected]

              Part of this art is that there really are no "facts". It was painted on the wall of his home some time before his death but wasn't found before he died. He never gave it a name or said anything about it.

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              There are facts, they just went with him to his grave.

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              • huppakee@feddit.nlH [email protected]

                Quite likely their initials are A.I.

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                Indeed they are.

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                • n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                  If we ever have another elected president, I hope that one of their first acts after undoing literally everything that the orange menace has done is to replace every picture of trump in any government building with this.

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                  Gonna need fundamental change to make the president less powerful and make it so that no one party ever holds a majority in Congress ever again. The first would follow the second, so we should be pushing for something like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting for every legislature we got.

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                  • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                    It's hard to say for sure. I always interpreted his expression as maniacal rather than horrified.

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                    He certainly wasn't horrified about doing it in the original myth, as far as I remember.

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                      He certainly wasn't horrified about doing it in the original myth, as far as I remember.

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                      Considering he ate FIVE of his children, I don't think he was.

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                      • liz@midwest.socialL [email protected]

                        Gonna need fundamental change to make the president less powerful and make it so that no one party ever holds a majority in Congress ever again. The first would follow the second, so we should be pushing for something like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting for every legislature we got.

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                        Start with reforming the ways your elections are held. To the rest of the world it seems like a 250 years old system to keep those with money in power.
                        I thought the american revolution was held to get lost of a king and his henchmen?

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                          Fuck AI. Fuck Trump. Fucking love Fransisco de Goya.

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                            he pratices deepthroating putin alot.

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                              Start with reforming the ways your elections are held. To the rest of the world it seems like a 250 years old system to keep those with money in power.
                              I thought the american revolution was held to get lost of a king and his henchmen?

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                              You're going to have to get more specific if you want a response beyond "yeah man, it is 250 years old."

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                                There are facts, they just went with him to his grave.

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                                Fair point. I guess it would be better to say that there isn't much to learn about in terms of hard facts.

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                                • liz@midwest.socialL [email protected]

                                  He certainly wasn't horrified about doing it in the original myth, as far as I remember.

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                                  Yeah, I've always seen Goya's version (if this is even Saturn at all) to be an inversion or some kind of commentary on the original theme. There are a few famous paintings of this scene from before Goya's time.

                                  If anything it feels to me that Saturn was in the darkness doing this act but now there is a bright and sudden light being shown on him and he is shocked or ashamed. Almost like he has possibly "snapped out" of the state he was just in and is now maybe seeing what he has done for the first time himself.

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                                  • liz@midwest.socialL [email protected]

                                    He certainly wasn't horrified about doing it in the original myth, as far as I remember.

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                                    Edit: wrong thread.

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                                    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                      It's hard to say for sure. I always interpreted his expression as maniacal rather than horrified.

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                                      Yeah I've heard few different intersting takes. I think most people agree the expression is mechanical like you said.

                                      This is just my impression. It's the lighting more than anything that makes me feel this way. The painting seems to be illuminating the devourer in a way that suggests he might be seeing his own act for the first time himself.

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                                        Edit: wrong thread.

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                                        Hey! You come back here with that irrelevant commentary!

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          This is based on Goya's famous painting "Saturn Devouring His Son", if anyone was wondering.

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                                          But why did you post a weirdly cropped version? I just can't see how that happened.

                                          Here's the full painting:

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