Trump says US will not make Ukraine security guarantees ‘beyond very much’ and Kyiv can ‘forget about’ joining Nato – live
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Until the question of doing anything about it comes up, in which case it very quickly turns to "Well, suddenly I'm a fiscal conservative" or "Russia has Legitimate Security Interests 🥺"
No, I've always supported arming Ukraine fighting against imperialism. My criticism of the US and Europe has been that they were not sending enough and should send in troops to assist Ukraine in fighting back against Russia. My other criticism was that the US was not genuine with the process for a ceasefire, and instead prioritized prolonging the war with Russia the same way the Afghanistan proxy war was used against the USSR, at the cost of Ukrainian lives. Russia may have legitimate security interests concerning NATO from a geopolitical standpoint, but the invasion only justifies the necessity of a security pact. I'd prefer a different security pact where all European countries participate Democratically, since the US only cares about NATO as a form of US Hegemony and not about the well-being and sovereignty of any European country.
Isn't that the exact position you criticized mainstream Dems for, just on Palestine?
I criticized the Dems and the Republicans for funding, defending, and facilitating a genocide. As anyone with a conscience should. We should be doing everything possible to fight back against imperialism and genocide. That's what international law is supposed to be about.
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He talks like a very stupid root vegetable.
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My other criticism was that the US was not genuine with the process for a ceasefire, and instead prioritized prolonging the war with Russia the same way the Afghanistan proxy war was used against the USSR, at the cost of Ukrainian lives.
"was not genuine with process for a ceasefire"
Would you like to elaborate on this?
I criticized the Dems and the Republicans for funding, defending, and facilitating a genocide. As anyone with a conscience should. We should be doing everything possible to fight back against imperialism and genocide. That’s what international law is supposed to be about.
So yes, it is the exact position that you criticized mainstream Dems on, just for Palestine.
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Considering Zelenskyy said out loud that Trump lives in a disinformation bubble, it's a safe bet that he's aware.
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Looks like Season 5 came out also.
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Trump trades alliances for slogans; NATO isn’t a casino, and Ukraine isn’t a poker chip.
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Yeah, sounds about right.
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The signalling about the minerals was done far before Trump took the reigns.
Ukraine confirmed this week that they refused the early peace deal (which is better than the deal they will get now) because NATO promised to support them to the end.
Neocons can blame this all on the convenient orange sheep, but the Biden administration made no effort to provide with Ukraine with decisive weapons to win the war. Only barely enough for the stalemate to keep going.
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Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad: U.S. Must Stop Undermining Negotiations with Russia to End Ukraine War
So yes, it is the exact position that you criticized mainstream Dems on, just for Palestine.
You get that Israel and Russia are the ones committing genocide against Ukraine and Palestine, right? Yeah, I support Ukrainian and Palestinian resistance against fascist forces and their rights to sovereignty and self-determination.
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The signalling about the minerals was done far before Trump took the reigns.
Like numerologists counting the letters in Bible verses.
Ukraine confirmed this week that they refused the early peace deal (which is better than the deal they will get now) because NATO promised to support them to the end.
This is a common claim by fascist shitheads, and has been for a good two years now, that has been repeatedly debunked in various ways. It has been repeated by Trump's fascist cronies recently, though, so it would be very interesting if you have an actual source for this. Surely you wouldn't signal boost fascist cunts in service to imperialist aims, and fascist cunts in service to the US fascist government, no less, would you...?
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Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad: U.S. Must Stop Undermining Negotiations with Russia to End Ukraine War
Oh, Noam Chomsky said it, what's his view on Ukr-
You get that Israel and Russia are the ones committing genocide against Ukraine and Palestine, right? Yeah, I support Ukrainian and Palestinian resistance against fascist forces and their rights to sovereignty and self-determination.
Yet those who take a "Genocide is okay because it's expensive or hurts my fee-fees to oppose 🥺" position gets a pass from you on one genocide, but infinite criticism and accelerationism for the other.
Curious.
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The boomers grew up in good times.
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It varies wildly depending on where you live. Remember that the US is a huge country.
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Are you able to write a single comment without half of it painting the person you are disagreeing with as a supporter of Putin?
Read one of your own favorite newspapers articles and replace the word Russia with America.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/natural-resources-ukraine-war-1.6467039And the open acknowledgment of mineral extortion is not a new Trump plan. It was openly proposed by neocons last year. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28288
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Are you able to write a single comment without half of it painting the person you are disagreeing with as a supporter of Putin?
Supporter is a strong word. I believe 'useful idiot' is the traditional nomenclature.
Read one of your own favorite newspapers articles and replace the word Russia with America. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/natural-resources-ukraine-war-1.6467039
"Russia, a country on the border of Ukraine with long-standing interests in subjugating the people and territory, wants Ukraine's minerals; therefore, the US wants it too"
Maybe India will invade next.
And the open acknowledgment of mineral extortion is not a new Trump plan. It was openly proposed by neocons last year. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28288
Holy fucking shit, did you not read your own article?
Graham said the idea came from former President Donald Trump, who on Feb. 10 said that aid for Ukraine should not go through unless it’s restructured as a loan.
Jesus fucking Christ.
This is a common claim by fascist shitheads, and has been for a good two years now, that has been repeatedly debunked in various ways. It has been repeated by Trump’s fascist cronies recently, though, so it would be very interesting if you have an actual source for this. Surely you wouldn’t signal boost pro-genocide misinformation from fascist cunts in service to imperialist aims, and fascist cunts in service to the US fascist government, no less, would you…?
So that's a 'no' to this one. Just freely repeating fascist claims in service to an ongoing genocide.
You want to know why you feel like you're being painted as a "Putin supporter"? It's because your talking points are from the same shit trough.
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I could see how rare earth might be good for a root vegetable, at least.
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That's what he's always done.
He has the attention span of a toddler. He latches onto ideas, and specifically things that will satisfy his ego, his greed or his lust, with a laser focus, for exactly and only so long as they manage to hold his attention.
And at the same time, he has essentially no conception of objective truth. It's not quite that he lives in a fantasy world as that his need to satisfy his ego, greed and/or lust is so much his focus that everything else pales in comparison, including truth.
So he essentially sincerely says whatever he thinks will serve to accomplish whatever it is that he's focused on at the moment. It's not so much that he lies as that he doesn't really make a distinction between truth and lies. The only meaningful measure of a claim is whether or not it will serve his goals.
And all of that means that a smart, canny and manipulative man - Putin, for instance - can get him pointed in whatever direction he wants by feeding him the right bait and the right bullet points to go along with it.
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The longer the war persists, the more destruction and devastation there will be, the more what’s called collateral damage elsewhere, massive starvation because of the closing off of Black Sea exports — there’s some relaxation of that, but we have little information about it — threat of nuclear war increases, and perhaps most significantly of all, and least discussed, is the fact that as the war continues, the limited efforts to deal with the overwhelming crisis of climate destruction, those reverse.
2nd part of the DemocracyNow interview
Now Putin has moved on to the anticipated escalation, “targeting Ukraine’s energy infrastructure over the last few weeks and stepping up its strikes in the eastern region of the country.” Putin’s escalation to the U.S.-U.K.-Israel model has been rightly condemned for its brutality — condemned by those who have accepted the original with little if any objection, and whose ghastly gamble laid the groundwork for the escalation, exactly as was warned throughout. There will be no accountability, though some lessons may have been learned.
https://chomsky.info/20221116-2/
Is reading the headline as far as you got? The US was incredibly brutal when invading Iraq. That doesn't mean Russia isn't also very brutal when they target civilians and civilian infrastructure, it means the US has historically been more brutal than Russia currently is when the US invaded other sovereign countries. If you think Chomsky doesn't consider Russia's invasion criminal, brutal, and unjustifiable, that's just not correct. If you actually read the interviews, his analysis is on what aspects of US foreign policy are prolonging the conflict. The US has never cared about Ukrainian Sovereignty, the US only cares about continuing US foreign policy of Neo-colonialism. Funding Ukraine militarily was/is the correct thing to do, that doesn't mean the US in invulnerable to criticism in all aspects of it's foreign policy on Ukraine. Like how they went weak on sactions, or how they refused to give iron dome tech to Ukraine.
Yet those who take a "Genocide is okay because it's expensive or hurts my fee-fees to oppose 🥺" position gets a pass from you on one genocide, but infinite criticism and accelerationism for the other.
What drugs are you smoking? I've never been ok with any genocide for any reason. Unlike many liberals who were fine with Biden funding genocide because "it's not an important issue". I've always been against genocide and accelerationism. Quote me proving otherwise or get your pathetic strawman out of here. You were quite literally more angry at the houthis for implementing a blockade against Israel's genocide on Gaza than the US-Saudi genocide of Yemen.
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If you think Chomsky doesn’t consider Russia’s invasion criminal, brutal, and unjustifiable, that’s just not correct. If you actually read the interviews
Yet Chomsky’s world-view does not leave space for Ukrainian agency. It is the “US and Britain” who have “refused” peace negotiations in Ukraine, Chomsky tells me, in order to further their own national interests, even as the country is being “battered, devastated”. That negotiations with Russia would mean de facto abandoning millions of Ukrainians to the whims of an aggressor that has shown itself capable of extraordinary brutality, such as in Bucha and Izyum, is dismissed. “Ukraine is not a free actor; they’re dependent on what the US determines,” he says, adding that the US is supplying Kyiv with weapons simply to weaken Russia. “For the US, this is a bargain. For a fraction of the colossal military budget, the US is able to severely degrade the military forces of its only real military adversary.”
According to Chomsky, Russia is acting with restraint and moderation. He compares Russia’s way of fighting with the US’s during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, arguing that large-scale destruction of infrastructure seen in that conflict “hasn’t happened in Ukraine”. He adds: “Undoubtedly Russia could do it, presumably with conventional weapons. [Russia] could make Kyiv as unliveable as Baghdad was, could move in to attacking supply lines in western Ukraine.”
When I asked him to clarify whether he was implying that Russia is fighting more humanely in Ukraine than the US did in Iraq, Chomsky replies, “I’m not implying it, it’s obvious.” Delegations of UN inspectors had to be withdrawn once the invasion of Iraq began, he says, “because the attack was so severe and extreme… That’s the US and British style of war.” Chomsky adds: “Take a look at casualties. All I know is the official numbers… the official UN numbers are about 8,000 civilian casualties [in Ukraine]. How many civilian casualties were there when the US and Britain attacked Iraq?”
Still incapable of reading, I see.
What drugs are you smoking? I’ve never been ok with any genocide for any reason. Unlike many liberals who were fine with Biden funding genocide because “it’s not an important issue”. I’ve always been against genocide and accelerationism. Quote me proving otherwise or get your pathetic strawman out of here.
I literally posted screenshots of the guys we were discussing playing genocide games, but go off. Infinite apologia for one genocide is permitted, but not the other.
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It's not so much that he lies as that he doesn't really make a distinction between truth and lies. The only meaningful measure of a claim is whether or not it will serve his goals.
Been saying this for years. The man literally can't tell a lie, everything that comes out of his mouth is the truth. I don't think many people have been around someone that's full-on Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
And yes, once you figure out that's his disorder, he's as easy to manipulate as a toddler. Also been saying since he won the election, his handlers are in charge this time and it couldn't be more obvious. Look at his Truth Social posts for one example. They're far more clear and focused, easily written by someone imitating him. Any one of us could do it.
