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    I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

    I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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    Ward Cunningham has written a federated wiki.

    https://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/

    https://github.com/fedwiki

    http://fed.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors

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    • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

      Thanks for linking my project. Im happy to answer questions about it. Also here you can find the git repo.

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      This looks very awesome. So it also functions as a redundant wiki?

      Wikipedia should use it. Then others can create their own wikis, which keep a version of articles of Wikipedia.

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      • caos@feddit.orgC [email protected]

        Hubzilla (macroblogging service in the Fediverse) can also be used to create and collaborate on wikis.

        I can only find a German-language manual for this right away: https://help.hubzilla.hu/benutzerhandbuch/wikis.html

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        Hubzilla is pretty amazing and has a ton of potential, unfortunately hasn't really taken off at all.

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        • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

          Thanks for linking my project. Im happy to answer questions about it. Also here you can find the git repo.

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          This looks interesting.

          Seems like it's still early days yet, but are there plans to add things like namespaces and categories?

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          • groupnebula563@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

            I wonder if it could be done with a MediaWiki plugin, given how extensible MW and its plugin system is

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            I wouldn't doubt it, though MW seems hard to manage.

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              I wouldn't doubt it, though MW seems hard to manage.

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              It's not that bad once you get the hang of it, especially using a wiki farm like http://www.miraheze.org/

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                https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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                Seems like there is a federated solution for everything lol

                There's also a list of ActivityPub software on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub#Software_using_ActivityPub

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                  Hosting a wiki isn't that expensive it's basically texts and some lightweight pictures. The whole english wikipedia is around 109GB of data.

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                  That doesn’t include images. Images are stored on wikimedia commons, which is about 425 TB.

                  https://webarchiveweb.wayback.bac-lac.canada.ca/web/20240117045744/https%3A//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3ASize_of_Wikipedia

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                  • ? Guest

                    This looks interesting.

                    Seems like it's still early days yet, but are there plans to add things like namespaces and categories?

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                    For now my focus is to make it federate with Lemmy and the rest of the Fediverse. But you're welcome to open an issue for that kind of feature.

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                    • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

                      This looks very awesome. So it also functions as a redundant wiki?

                      Wikipedia should use it. Then others can create their own wikis, which keep a version of articles of Wikipedia.

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                      Its similar to Lemmy in many ways, so like Lemmy posts are redundantly mirrored across instances, the same is true for Ibis articles.

                      Getting Wikipedia federated would be great, but it will take a long time for Ibis to be ready for that scale.

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                        Seems like there is a federated solution for everything lol

                        There's also a list of ActivityPub software on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub#Software_using_ActivityPub

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                        Nah... Missing IMHO:

                        • Strava like
                        • IMDB like
                        • stackoverflow like
                        • google maps review like
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                        • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

                          Its similar to Lemmy in many ways, so like Lemmy posts are redundantly mirrored across instances, the same is true for Ibis articles.

                          Getting Wikipedia federated would be great, but it will take a long time for Ibis to be ready for that scale.

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                          Can ibis import a full Wikipedia backup?

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                            Nah... Missing IMHO:

                            • Strava like
                            • IMDB like
                            • stackoverflow like
                            • google maps review like
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                            Also:

                            • gift economy/trading platform (e.g. like freecycle)
                            • buying/selling (e.g. like ebay)
                            • local community/bioregionalism networks (e.g. what nextdoor should be)

                            These seem kind of ideal for a federated network, IMO.

                            I actually think Lemmy would be a pretty decent format for something stackoverflow like - just maybe needs to UI tweaks to minimise the visual space that replies take up, plus maybe answered post flair

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                            • ? Guest

                              I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                              I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                              I used gitit for a while. It's got backed and you can propagate it around that way.

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                                Also:

                                • gift economy/trading platform (e.g. like freecycle)
                                • buying/selling (e.g. like ebay)
                                • local community/bioregionalism networks (e.g. what nextdoor should be)

                                These seem kind of ideal for a federated network, IMO.

                                I actually think Lemmy would be a pretty decent format for something stackoverflow like - just maybe needs to UI tweaks to minimise the visual space that replies take up, plus maybe answered post flair

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                                There's https://codeberg.org/flohmarkt/flohmarkt for a marketplace.

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                                  That doesn’t include images. Images are stored on wikimedia commons, which is about 425 TB.

                                  https://webarchiveweb.wayback.bac-lac.canada.ca/web/20240117045744/https%3A//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3ASize_of_Wikipedia

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                                  Well, with Kiwix I was able to download the whole english wikipedia with mid-res pictures on my 128GB USB Drive. I think the 600TB you're talking about includes videos and hish-res pictures.

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                                  • lgsp@feddit.itL [email protected]

                                    Nah... Missing IMHO:

                                    • Strava like
                                    • IMDB like
                                    • stackoverflow like
                                    • google maps review like
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                                    Strava like: FitTrackee and Endurain are planning to implement ActivityPub so yah there's gonna to be one
                                    IMDB like: NeoDB and LibRate
                                    Not sure about the rest

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                                      Strava like: FitTrackee and Endurain are planning to implement ActivityPub so yah there's gonna to be one
                                      IMDB like: NeoDB and LibRate
                                      Not sure about the rest

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                                      thank you! I will keep an eye on those

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                                        I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                                        I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                                        What benefit would federating it bring?

                                        The ability to self-host your own FOSS wiki already exists and has for over two decades. It's called MediaWiki.

                                        You could have federated accounts I guess but do editors on the Doctor Who wiki really need the ability to see posts on Mastadon or edit pages on the That 70's Wiki?

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                                        • mapto@feddit.bgM [email protected]

                                          There's https://codeberg.org/flohmarkt/flohmarkt for a marketplace.

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                                          Thanks, I saw that flohmakrt link in another comment too. Excellent!

                                          Does that yrpri site work well?

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