FOSS contacts storage/sync?

[reversalhatchery@beehaw.org]

And the extremely low tech solution of just having them offline in a foss contacts app and exporting backups from that app to your storage in case you lose them.

that's not a good solution because a lot of apps will be able to read them. It's not always possible to decide for yourself what apps you have, sometimes more powerful people are going to make you use one that you don't trust.

[reversalhatchery@beehaw.org]

what would you do without selfhosting?

I do that for myself, but I can't recommend that to 99% of people around me, and I can't let them into my system either.

I have seen etesync, but that requires a subscription.
was thinking of something with syncthing, but that has difficulties too (missing tools mostly), especially that you would have to keep the contacts file at a place where nearly any app can read it.

[reversalhatchery@beehaw.org]

forget NixOS. I understand that for seasoned users it might be a cool thing, but as I see you may be a beginner, and you totally don't need that.

docker is solid advice though. use that and a reverse proxy, like nginx or apache (they are complete web servers with revproxy capabilities), and put different services on different subdomains of the machine's hostname (like api.etesync.mypc.lan, and web.etesync.mypc.lan). that way you basically run multiple services with the same IP and port, and the reverse proxy separates the different traffic of services by looking at the subdomain.

if I'm right that you're a beginner, take your time, you're not in a rush. it will work out, but you're learning, it might take some patience here and there

[thomask@lemmy.sdf.org]

If you are feeling ambitious and want to go "serverless", try out DecSync and a compatible android app for contact sync. This represents all your contacts as files on disk in a way that avoids conflicts, and you can use SyncThing to keep your devices in sync 100% peer to peer. Unfortunately on your desktop you'll probably have to use something like radicale on localhost and the plugin to convert it into CardDAV for your regular email client to understand.

[ccrhode@lemmy.ml]

I have a little python script that (among other things) will maintain an address list in a *.csv file on a Windows or Linux PC. It's a Qt app. The documentation does some handwaving about importing/exporting to Android. See: https://lacusveris.com/Tonto2/Docs/en/index.shtml

[mox@lemmy.sdf.org]

In matters where a server is needed, you generally have three options:

• self-host
• get a friend/colleague/employer to host
• pay for a host

[garibaldee@lemm.ee]

in a foss contacts app

I said in a foss one, I don't think the foss developers are conspiring to get rid of your contacts, maybe for apple you might have to hope the developer doesn't get burnt out, but the android foss community is pretty robust, but if you're that paranoid just put them in a txt file or a spreadsheet.

[lemmchen@feddit.org]

I wish Flock was still around.

[kilgore_trout@feddit.it]

With podman/docker container, behind caddy reverse proxy.

[reversalhatchery@beehaw.org]

that's not what I meant. but that when you export the contacts, that happens to shared storage, that other apps can see

[diesertypmatthias@lemmy.ml]

Nextcloud.

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Thanks! But, from the few times I've tried it...a bit on the heavy side, for my use case. I'm not going to use any of all the other features/integrations.

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Thanks! For databases, I'd prefer not to have to rely on Syncthing. I know it's reliable, but I'd prefer something hooking directly to the android contacts/calendars providers. I'll try something CalDAV/CardDav-based. Still trying to find one that includes a web client as well, to edit the contacts/calendars on the web if I choose to (otherwise I'll be needing to create two URLs, one for the client and another for the server).

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Thanks...I think I prefer something a bit les...manual in a way.

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Thanks...I have it running now. I guess my nit-pickyness of this is, it's just the server. I'd like to have also something replicating a calendar and contacts managing web UI, ala google calendar/contacts.
Sure this works neatly already (no complains there!), but I'm trying to also provide functionality for the rest of the family. Sometimes a web app might be the easiest approach to check something first.

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Thanks! I mean, etesync also has a super basic web UI. I meant some sort of calendar/contacts web editing tool, like calendar.google.com or similar. I've just installed a docker image of Radicale, but all I can see is the webUI for adding/removing collections, nothing else...Etesync also has this. They also provide a webUI editor, but it's a separate tool to install elsewhere, that requires another URL to be running. I'd like to have both server and a webUI to handle users, collections, and the individual items/calendars/contacts of the collections as well.

[iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee]

Thanks...I agree. Also, I'd be needing a second dedicated URL for this. One for the caldav access from the apps, and another for the webUI. I'd like to find something encompassing both of these onto a single server app.

[julian_1_2_3_4_5@slrpnk.net]

I would suggest a baikal server: https://sabre.io/baikal/docker-install/ it's made from.the ones making radicle and sabre, one of the kost used open source caldav/carddav servers. Yes it can sync calendars too

[agile_squirrel@lemmy.ml]

I hadn't looked too much into Radicale, so thanks for the info. What is their second webUI you mentioned called? If you're looking for an all in one server, Nextcloud may be your best option. Its a bit heavier though for just contacts and calendar. If you do go down this path, I've heard the docker AIO container is easier to maintain.

[agile_squirrel@lemmy.ml]

As another solution, you could try Tuta Calendar. It's not self hosted, but is free for one calendar.