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  • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    Everything's a toxin at a high enough dosage. And even at that dosage they can still be therapeutic. See: chemotherapy, as an extreme example.

    With botox specifically, it has applications outside of just making lizard-faces. Off the top of my head, it's used as a treatment for migraines by injecting it into the back of the scalp - any swelling/filling effect it has is concealed by the hair anyway, unless the patient is bald.

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    Right, yeah, I am talking about purely cosmetic uses. There's always a risk associated with a botox injection, but if it can heal something or mitigate a different risk, it may be worth it.

    And botox is injected at a dosage where it is toxic. That's how it paralyzes the muscles. If it's accidentally injected into a vein or at somewhat too high of a dosage, you can have complications like botulism or death.

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      Keep em trapped with fear of ugliness.

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      when ironically the shit is making most of them uglier.

      like, what the fuck is this even?

      https://www.thelist.com/1784977/kristi-noem-unrecognizable-throwback-pic-before-plastic-surgery/

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      • M [email protected]

        I’m perfectly fine with looking my age. I have earned every day of my age, dammit!

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        yep. I'm not aged, but my body shows the miles, and I have zero concern about the people who judge looks. I clean up nicely a few times a year.

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        • R [email protected]

          I answered higher up, but sunscreen (I use mineral sunblock but the Korean chemical sunscreens are really good too) in the morning, and Retin-A (prescription 0.1%) at night are for sure the two best things you can do to keep your skin in good shape. Consistency really pays off. Even if you sometimes forget the sunscreen - putting it on day after day with a few misses is better than using it only when you think you need it.

          Men's face skin is slightly thicker than women's but otherwise the same, and superficially the same.

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          Appreciate the response. I did search for a routine earlier and have a Retinol cream on the way. I also found a recommendation for eye cream as well so I’ll give that a try too. I forgot about the Korean sunscreen options as I read on Lemmy a while back that (in general) they tend to be of higher quality than anything domestic.

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          • M [email protected]

            I was just telling my wife about this scene today. She had a woman at her work with massive fake tits today. Bigger than her body kind of huge. As she was telling me about her she said "who wants a plastic woman?"....the perfect segway for this scene.

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            Well now, fake tiddies, I'll allow it.

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            • brunbrun6766@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

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              I can't say who's better one is just shaved 🤷🏼‍♀️

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                Yeah guys get Botox.

                I'm older lady and get seen as younger, but it's years of Retin-A and sunscreen and fitness. Occasional peels, micro needling, hotshot skincare but I don't love what Botox does to faces. If I was swimming in money I'd eventually get a facelift, but still would never want to do fillers or botox. Maybe the "biostimulatory" fillers that improve skin without adding volume if we ever get them here. Basically - I'm not opposed to interventions but specifically don't like the Botox look.

                To myself I look my age but good for my age, not younger. But others seem to interpret that as younger.

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                This is the way to go IMO, live your age! People obsessed with being 20 when they are 40 (for example) probably need a shrink not a face lift.

                Sunscreen (or just staying out of the nuclear reactors fallout, my skin is so white) and no stress is what I use 😎.

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                  There's a classic survivorship bias where people think all Botox is bad because we always see the obvious gaffs and just assume that good Botox is natural. Botox is a lot more common than people think, it's usually just a touch-up

                  That being said. It puts me off how often you see celebrities with botched jobs. You would think that with all the resources at their disposal they would get the best. And if the best cant do it at least 90% of the time there's no way you're putting me under the needle of whoever I can afford.

                  Not that I really have a strong desire to get Botox right now, but I don't know who I'll be in the future.

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                  The thing about plastic surgery is that even if it's well-done, it doesn't last very long. A person' face continues to change, sometimes even more rapidly than would otherwise have happened because of all the damage and trauma caused by the surgery itself. So when you see someone with "good" plastic surgery, you've really just captured them at that brief moment in time before it all goes to shit.

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                    Do guys get Botox? I’ll admit at my mid 40s, I look like I’m in my mid 40s. I’m too lazy to pursue getting Botox but I like the mental fantasy of magically looking 10 years younger.

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                    My mom stopped coloring her hair as soon as they started graying, because she wants to "look her age". Take from that what you want.

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                      There's a classic survivorship bias where people think all Botox is bad because we always see the obvious gaffs and just assume that good Botox is natural. Botox is a lot more common than people think, it's usually just a touch-up

                      That being said. It puts me off how often you see celebrities with botched jobs. You would think that with all the resources at their disposal they would get the best. And if the best cant do it at least 90% of the time there's no way you're putting me under the needle of whoever I can afford.

                      Not that I really have a strong desire to get Botox right now, but I don't know who I'll be in the future.

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                      Body dysmorphia due to yes-men around you and the plastic surgeon doing what customer wants.

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                      • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                        Everything's a toxin at a high enough dosage. And even at that dosage they can still be therapeutic. See: chemotherapy, as an extreme example.

                        With botox specifically, it has applications outside of just making lizard-faces. Off the top of my head, it's used as a treatment for migraines by injecting it into the back of the scalp - any swelling/filling effect it has is concealed by the hair anyway, unless the patient is bald.

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                        Everything's a toxin at a high enough dosage.

                        Stop there with the excuses, it's get's used because it's high enough dose to cause harm.

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                          Well now, fake tiddies, I'll allow it.

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                          Can't believe people are so lazy, they are implanting water beds into their bodies.

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                          • O [email protected]

                            I personally would rather not be 45 and look like a 28 year old lizard, but that's just me

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                            What about looking like a 50 year old lizard?

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                              What confuses me most is calling women of botox-using age "girls".

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                                when ironically the shit is making most of them uglier.

                                like, what the fuck is this even?

                                https://www.thelist.com/1784977/kristi-noem-unrecognizable-throwback-pic-before-plastic-surgery/

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                                She's an actual monster. I think it's more than Botox though. Prob fillers and surgery were on the roadmap to the Frankenstein we see today

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                                  I can't say who's better one is just shaved 🤷🏼‍♀️

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                                  Before is his (mostly) natural face.

                                  After looks like he's wearing a mask of himself over his own face

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                                    What confuses me most is calling women of botox-using age "girls".

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                                    A lot of people use "boys" and "girls" to refer to men and women of all ages.

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                                    • mitch@piefed.mitch.scienceM [email protected]

                                      cheap, too. it's just processed Clostridium botulinum poison; you can brew that in large vats for pennies on the dose. In some cases, it's cheaper to make than pills.

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                                      It might be cheap to make, but its absolutely not a cheap procedure for any of the medical applications I know of. The drug itself is around 1k for the low end of the typical therapeutic dose, and a lot of insurances (if you're in the US) want you to jump through hoops to pay for it.

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                                      • alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.deA [email protected]

                                        She's an actual monster. I think it's more than Botox though. Prob fillers and surgery were on the roadmap to the Frankenstein we see today

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                                        it's a whole bucket of rotting assholes isn't it?

                                        trump's cankles are about to rupture

                                        stephen miller is completing is transformation into nosferatu as the final vestiges of humanity drain from his skinsuit

                                        His press secretary is a bleached blond hate chihuahua

                                        thanks conservatives.

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