Pete Hegseth tells NATO that a return to Ukraine's 2014 borders is 'unrealistic'
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Russia has been waging imperialistic wars against its neighbours since way before Ukraine.
It will also continue to do so, since it managed to fuck up its economy so bad it can't get back from a war economy.
Also, if anything this would still be a NATO victory even if it's not a total Ukrainian victory. Russian military stockpiles are fucked, Europe is bringing back NATO with new funding, better cooperation and key new members.
We've got NATO lake and the Moskva is still sunk. Wonder how long it will take to rebuild it. Sanctions are not going anywhere either.
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They won't expire, there is a literal brand new Rheinmetall factory in Ukraine.
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If the US is not helping, they should fuck all the way off.
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They just lost the cold war.
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Oh great, another Putinbot spouting reams of misinformation.
Trying to clean up the whole mess from your firehose of bullshit is a fool's errand, but here are a couple counterpoints for the benefit of anyone not already familiar with the relevant history:
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The war in Ukraine was not "civil." It was being waged against Russian troops acting as "separatists," a disguise so thin that the only ones to buy it were on Russian state TV.
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Every single escalation in the conflict was by Russia, ever since the hostile takeover of Crimea.
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The military strength of Russia compared to NATO is so ridiculously lopsided that the only way Russia could possibly "win" is if they're able to sabotage NATO from the inside, for instance by manipulating foreign elections enough to put a Russian puppet in charge.
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By 2013, it was clear that Ukraine’s democratic facade was crumbling. [...] The Party of Regions controlled the Cabinet, the Parliament (Verkhovna Rada), and most local councils. Its leading [financial-political groups] also controlled most of the courts, the police, the tax administration, and major state-owned industrial companies—in other words, the lion’s share of the economy.
Doesn't look much like a healthy democracy to me.
And the 2014 coup being backed by Western powers appears to me to merely be a Kremlin talking point. Do you have any reliable source to backup that claim?
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Europe is having energy problems. Germany especially is seeing its manufacturing capacity decline due to high energy costs. Before Russia intervened directly and Europe was forced to enact sanctions, they were receiving gas from Russia at a discount and they were paying in Euros. Now they buy expensive LNG from Norway and the USA. They’ve replaced cheap energy with expensive energy.
If NATO hadn’t backed the coup to kick off the Ukraine war, Germany’s car manufacturing would be growing into the EV market instead of shrinking and hobbled. Old allies can’t catch a break.
New NATO countries are finding out that the US can’t afford vassal states like it used to. The Trump administration expects each country to pay for NATO military expenditures. Military budgets are increasing, and countries are trading financial sense to be allies with a declining American empire.
Meanwhile Russia is part of BRICS, an economic bloc that includes more than half the world’s population. And what is Trump’s response? Trump wants to go to war against the biggest economic bloc in world history. Trying to fight half the world in an economic war sounds like a losing strategy if I’ve ever heard one.
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I don't like what you said but sadly it is true - we should have invested much more in the defence and start permanent sanctions on Russia since Chechnya war.
That doesn't distract from the fact that Trump is a cunt working hand in hand with Putler.
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I have looked it up. That's why I'm correcting you.
The country changed it in 1991, which is the year they got their independence.
"Ukraine" means "borderland". Adding "the" in front of it makes it descriptive: the borderland of a larger nation. Removing the "the" makes it a name, which it is, because it's its own country.
I don't correct people unless I've already looked it up. And I don't continue the conversation without looking it up again. Just say "Ukraine".
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Given how you seem to need justifying your correction, I wonder what’s the point of it in the first place. I have used the term both with and without the article, obviously disregarding the political implications I am aware of.
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Why would you disregard the political implications?
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Because the content of my post already makes it clear that my position and perspective is on the side of Ukraine.
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I 100% agree.
For at least the next 4 years I would not count on the US honoring any security arrangements. Any intelligence shared with us is likely going to be passed to Russia.
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If the war is already lost why do russian oil refineries keep exploding? If Russia is winning so hard why are frontline troops moving around in unarmored golf carts? Why does Ukraine still hold land in Russia? Where'd the best Koreans go?
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BRICS delusion strikes again
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Unfortunately, there really isn't that much of it, even if it royally pisses Moscow off.
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I honestly wouldn't have completely counted on the US before that either. Countries don't have friends and they all only work for themselves.
While there are groups that are often going in the same direction, you can't just count on others. Each deal is unique, and each treaty can be broken at any time. The US move when it's in their interest to do so. But should their local political situation be tense, or if there's nothing to gain, it's much less obvious IMO. And of course, at the moment, it's quite likely that most treaties will just be put to the shredder.
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The problem is a HUGE part of our economy and the world economy depends on this spending. Musk and Trump are fucking morons who are actively destroying the US economy and strength.
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Your first sentence is laughably false.
It's like you don't have a clue the eu exists. -
Wow you sound sooo smart! Waaay more smart than me a dumb American!
Please educate me on the date that the EU began to
field an army?
