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We all need to strike

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  • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

    It's like the entire white collar industry. I think they think it's beneath them, and they think they will be special.

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    My company will fire anyone who talks about unionizing. And with Republicans destroying the Labor protections once afforded by the government, that's a really risky move to make.

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      you should try to get off of your imaginary high horse or you might hurt yourself.

      A strike is a refusal to commit labour to the company. Same as not doing a good job. In japan the ticket checkers had a strike where they did their job as usual but did not collect the payment for issuing tickets. THAT was considered a strike.

      why must quiet quitting not be considered too? We don't participate in whatever greedy venture by doing the bare minimum.

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      A strike is a refusal to commit labour to the company.

      ...except you don't do it individually, you should do it collectivelly, else it won't make any lasting difference and will probably get you fired

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        I think it's time for you to be introduced to the concept of "cognitive work". We have been doing that for a few thousand years now.

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        So you, without a tiny bit of irony, would say you sitting at your desk is a labour job?

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          How are you contributing to that?

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          I don't think these types of challenges are, in any way helpful or in our collective benefit.

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            I don't think these types of challenges are, in any way helpful or in our collective benefit.

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            It's just to understand if you do politics or you just talk about politics.

            Criticizing without strategic and contextual awareness of what you're criticizing should stop being normalized. If you just have opinions on stuff instead of building or participating into organizations, I know for sure I can disregard your words.

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              My point is that I said i felt isolated by blue collar workers not considering tech workers as the same class.

              Labor isn't a class difference.

              desk workers suffer numerous health issues due to sitting all day/lack of movement.

              Blue collar workers get significantly decreased life spans compared to white collar, because we breath in fumes and strain our bodies. That's not the point you want to stand on for them being the same.

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              maybe try to win over people instead of assuming we don't know how tough it is out there as a blue collar worker? I didn't say your life was a walk in the park. I said we as tech workers are still breaking our health for capitalist profits which we don't see much of. Why do you think I chose an office job? My father was an assembly line worker making automotive starter motors. He came home and slept is all i remember from his working days. You think you should feel proud of someone going away from backbreaking work or do you think less of them because they decided to make their lives a little bit easier?

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                maybe try to win over people instead of assuming we don't know how tough it is out there as a blue collar worker? I didn't say your life was a walk in the park. I said we as tech workers are still breaking our health for capitalist profits which we don't see much of. Why do you think I chose an office job? My father was an assembly line worker making automotive starter motors. He came home and slept is all i remember from his working days. You think you should feel proud of someone going away from backbreaking work or do you think less of them because they decided to make their lives a little bit easier?

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                I don't have a problem with your job being easier. My issue is you white collar workers sitting in your air conditioned rooms and diminishing the difference in body damage and quality of life between white collar and blue collar.

                You're not breaking your health. You can just exercise outside of work to stop most of the issues. We don't get that luxury, which is why it stings when you try to say the damage is equivalent.

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                  It's just to understand if you do politics or you just talk about politics.

                  Criticizing without strategic and contextual awareness of what you're criticizing should stop being normalized. If you just have opinions on stuff instead of building or participating into organizations, I know for sure I can disregard your words.

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                  then you're oddly commenting on a thread about striking.. which is secondary to the important step of building organizations and support structures. Its hard to near impossible for people to strike who depend on that pay check to clear debt, pay rent, etc. Participating in regular organizing events is the right advice, and you got off on the wrong foot asking first for people to strike and only when asked questions you revealed people need to organize. without the proper support structures and alternative means of income in place, it is near impossible to convince people to strike. They need the strike because they don't have financial security to stop obeying their boss. You're ignoring the initial situation. That's creating a perception of you being about only what you think needs to happen without considering others.

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                    So you, without a tiny bit of irony, would say you sitting at your desk is a labour job?

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                    when tech folk get milked by every other merchant and pay extra, while getting ripped off.. we do feel like daily wage workers.

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                      then you're oddly commenting on a thread about striking.. which is secondary to the important step of building organizations and support structures. Its hard to near impossible for people to strike who depend on that pay check to clear debt, pay rent, etc. Participating in regular organizing events is the right advice, and you got off on the wrong foot asking first for people to strike and only when asked questions you revealed people need to organize. without the proper support structures and alternative means of income in place, it is near impossible to convince people to strike. They need the strike because they don't have financial security to stop obeying their boss. You're ignoring the initial situation. That's creating a perception of you being about only what you think needs to happen without considering others.

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                      you answered to the wrong person.

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