What do you do when people don't care?
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Nobody is advocating for cross burning. People need to rise against the first steps of a totalitarian government that only serves the oligarchy.
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Work in medical too, but work in the lower sections with the blue collar workers while living in the bible belt. They're all Trump fans and think this is all great.
The best advice I have is find your people, the ones you know who've been against this (not the non-voters, they folded to apathy, and will fold when the going gets tough) and start working on survival plans. Gardens, mutual aid, mutual defense, how to hide those in danger ESPECIALLY if you're the cishet white guy. Build the community as best you can.
This is not some big overall "Fight the bastions to overthrow" but right now as a regular schmuck in the middle of nowhere, right now this is what we have.
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Great comment. Trump won and the amount of people here throwing the Nazi word around still don't realise how self defeating they are.
You can't tell someone their an idiot or evil and then expect them to see things your way, you're much more likely to end up entrenching their beliefs.
Engage, don't alienate, no matter how hard that feels at times.
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The only thing one person can do is get armed, get trained, and get ready.
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I had a conversation with my second grade teacher on Instagram the other day. I posted Matthew 25:35-40 on my story with the comment “I can’t believe so many Christians I know support a president and a government that would willingly and forcefully kick Jesus himself out of the country thousands of times.”
She replied saying that this verse doesn’t apply for the same reason that I don’t allow just anyone into my house: because there are people who shouldn’t be there. There’s just so many things wrong with her logic AND her premises that I barely knew where to start, and that’s part of the problem. Fascism works by sowing doubt in the fabric of credibility. All she really knows is that her idea of Jesus comforts her, and so finding comfort somewhere probably means she can find Jesus and righteousness there too. You can’t really teach someone to care because they probably already do care, but you have to teach them to see the things that are actually happening, to trust the real experts, and to see the connections between themselves and the people who need care.
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Hitler also didn't happen overnight. We all look back in history and many ask "how could they not know what was happening" and "how could they not stop him". It's all happening in real time, and nobody gives a shit as long as they are not the danger group being put in the gas chambers.
It will only stop when millions are death in a decade or more. If it ever stops. Hitler didn't have the strongest military in the world and nuclear weapons to use willy nilly.
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I'd add "get organized" to that list but you're on the money otherwise
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Yeah, but what do you do when a good chunk of the population doesn't go 'seeking something out', yet vote and influence the lives of those who do anyway?
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Yes but like exercise, intellectual exercise feels good too.
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To help you finding an answer i'll return you the same question: why did you not care about US building concentration camps and following the fascist playbook until now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment_and_arrest_of_Julian_Assange
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Do you know that they didn't?
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OP seem to be lamenting only about the "latest" US government policies.
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Not sure if youre gonna get blasted when everyone else gets on later, but you're correct. The US has always done shit like this. Obama and Biden spoiled these people lol.
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What a fucking stupid, useless reply.
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I would say that the initial problem here, is that people give a single shit what a 2000+ year old, bronze-age sex manual, has to say about literally fucking anything.
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What do you do when those people are your family?
Easier said than done (though recent events have made it a little easier).
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Yeah, it's kind of a bad take. Maybe we should teach people what the word actually means so that they can understand that the applies to everything they're doing*
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How were the circumstances "MUCH different"? Do you think the Nazis happened overnight? Are you not aware of who they targeted first (trans people)?
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In many ways he's a unique figure. When he entered the political scene in his first campaign. The establishment republicans and conservatives didn't appear to think he'd really become a serious force. They were wrong. His ideological opponents also seemed to think he was too silly, and too extreme to be taken seriously and his domination of the right, albeit surprising, was anomalous and would never translate to electoral victory. They were also wrong. He seemed not to know how to play the game properly and was too foolish even to realise it. He probably wouldn't have been the first whack job to fail to heed his advisors and PR team and would surely fail like all of them. Viewed in that light his somehow successful manoeuvres could seem only baffling than inspired, like watching someone win at roulette by just always betting one colour. This gives his rising successes a spooky and uncanny air and not something his rivals or opponents could simply emulate themselves because when a normal person does this they just lose.
If he'd had that final Big Mac attack in 2015 or maybe even as late as 2016, his brand of politics and the movement it seems to have inspired might have died with him but sadly it looks like now, plenty of proteges will be there to pick up the reigns. For all that can be said of the man, it appears he tapped in to and unleashed something that was waiting for its time and it's unlikely even his death will put that genie back in its bottle. The next in line might be a shrewd and clever cynic, who's studied the MAGA playbook and will exploit it to the hilt to grasp power for their own ends with no belief in the irrational or fantastical elements of this new orthodoxy. It might be an actual true believer, straight from the ranks of the deranged and mentally disturbed that Trump previously manipulated, now believing they're seeing the many real and imagined prophecies Trump used to rile them coming true. Maybe it'll be something in between, someone more like Trump himself with what seems to be more of an instinctive knack for playing these emboldened fanatics rather than a geniusly thought out strategy, they'll sometimes believe what they're saying sometimes not, a value system infinitely malleable, but reliably selfish. Either way Trump being dead will be a relief for little more than a day and after that you can either look forward to an heir apparent who'll keep it all going or a dangerous power struggle between dangerous people happy to expend lives and treasure to pick up the mantle.
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That's 100% true and a fault in OP's attempt, but the broader question remains, if some people don't seek it out, what do you do then?