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If I had a kid I would want them to spend as much time as possible looking after the kid. I don't need them to tell me that they're doing that, I assumed that they're doing that so I'm no better off.
Also everyone estimates those things anyway.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You might overestimate the time it takes to fill reports. It gives them more time anyways because else parents would discuss with them after work
It’s also nice to detect any potential problem or trend
If I see such report, I would instantly have more trust in them. It’s reassuring
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Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.
Daycare is kind of intense.
You have a bunch of parents who would rather be with their kids. They're paying close to their own mortgage/rent to have their kids watched. They're convinced that the teens/young adults the daycare hires are not doing anything. Their kids are there with a load of other kids, pick up bad habits, get bullied and yelled at by kids in worse home situations. As soon any any scratch or scrape happens they want to know know for those prices.
The timesheets give them solace that their kid is being watched, fed, changed, and taken care of emotionally.
it's not necessary, but it's not hard to see why it happens
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Additional notes: I was assassinating another child
Is this daycare or militia camp?
I don't think the military or even prison tracks individuals with this level of verbose. I feel like I'm reading debugging logs.
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no?????? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I'd be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!
I also have kids in daycare, and while they're able to provide ample individual care, once you get past one adult to a specific set of kids and the kids swap between adults it becomes a much greater risk of missing someone's need because they can't communicate it clearly.
It also can make it faster to know when something last happened if you weren't the one to do it. If a kids fussy and the person who's been looking after them all morning has gone to lunch you can just look over and see that they got up from a nap recently, got a diaper change and that it's almost time for food.It's not about cramming so many kids in that you can barely keep track and more about recognizing that you're caring for someone else's kids and so taking every reasonable step to ensure there aren't mistakes, as well as demonstrating to the parents that you've done so.
Our daycare has a list on the wall with the name of every kid in the room next to their evacuation plan and emergency kit (big baby/little baby rooms are connected. Sometimes they rebalance for lunch or just different activities which is when they update the list)
I have absolute confidence that in the event of an emergency they wouldn't need to use the list, and also that they would still go down the list and look directly at each kid and also do a sweep while doing whatever response they needed.As someone who's done a bit of work on procedures around systems and making sure they avoid negative outcomes I appreciate there being a process and checklist that's routinely followed.
Also, the digital lists are really more for the parents to be informed about what's going on. I know that I appreciate knowing where precisely they are in their routine when I do pickup.
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Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.
That doesn't seem weirdly detailed to me? Kid bumped their head and they wrote down what happened.
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That doesn't seem weirdly detailed to me? Kid bumped their head and they wrote down what happened.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.
Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.
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Looks like a daycare that's taking care of toddlers and infants. Logging these events makes a bit more sense as you have to be at least roughly aware of this stuff to keep an eye out for potential health issues. The kid isn't able to convey things directly so you have to look for signs. If diapers aren't being soiled, then you might need a medical exam, for example.
The precision of the timestamps might seem a bit needlessly specific, but if you are noting it electronically, might as well let the system time-stamp it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Don't think it's system timestamps, as they're curiously rounded
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Let's not put the blame only on the parents. Anyone who has spent more than 30 seconds working for a corp would understand that taking credit for work does not mean the work got done.
Assuming the diapers aren't tracked by barcode and there isn't an independent inspector validating each operation, I would be MORE wary about my kid being well taken care of at a place that measures and tracks work this way. Especially since the types of management that would think this was a good idea are also the type to not understand how work actually gets done and drives to making the metrics look good at the expense of actually caring for human children.
Have you ever actually been to a daycare as an adult?
They're not tracking timestamps by hand, they're going up to a tablet, tapping baby name and then tapping diaper/wet or started nap.
Having a sense of how often a kid is eating, sleeping and going to the bathroom is really important because those are health indicators and they can't tell you how they feel. The caretakers are going to take notes one way or another and give them to the parents so they can be aware of any trends.
They are also subject to surprise inspections government inspectors to verify that they're following the various rules.
This is seriously just the standard type of logging that anyone tasked with caring for another person is going to be doing.
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Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.
Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.
It's an app. Do you actually think they're manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There's also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
You're caring for someone else's child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that's good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid? -
Hadn't noticed. I think you'd have to try to get translucent boxes versus a simple solid box. Seems intentional?
If you took the highlighter tool and changed the color to black, it may default to semitransparent. It’s useful if you’re trying to highlight something in fluorescent yellow.
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And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each (lets hope they just have to click a button and not add fucking notes to each one) so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up. God forbid its a real winner of a day and every other child is just walking into walls and tripping all over the place. I am sure they need this dumb shit added to their workload.
30 times 5 seconds is 2.5 minutes, and that's for a stupendously overworked person. Like "CPS call" levels of understaffing at what would be an unlicensed facility.
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It's an app. Do you actually think they're manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There's also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
You're caring for someone else's child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that's good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?wrote last edited by [email protected]just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes.
I was referring to the amount of them. 3 in half an hour
For no good reason.the law says if you felt the need to do..
Luckily the law is different where I live. I'd rather have my child taken care of by a human, instead of a flowchart
Do you have a different criteria
When the caretaker feels like something important happened
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Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.
Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.
Sounds like a really good way to have half of these things forgotten throughout the day and never told to the parents
️ logging this on the tablet takes literally 5 seconds, instead of having to spend 5 minutes with each parent at pickup -
Sounds like a really good way to have half of these things forgotten throughout the day and never told to the parents
️ logging this on the tablet takes literally 5 seconds, instead of having to spend 5 minutes with each parent at pickupYeah, I'd also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they're doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.
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Yeah, I'd also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they're doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.
Sure, but those 5 minutes add up in a whole daycare.
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no?????? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I'd be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!
Half the time I have to check with my wife what cares were done recently when my nonverbal kid gets fussy to try to identify why they're fussy. Logging makes it so instead of asking one can check the log, especially useful if the previous care person isn't available to be asked now
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Yeah, let’s have concussed children take a nap
Sounds like diaper aged kids, so they bump into things all the time and will cry for 30 seconds because it was scary then forget that anything happened and be fine. You should see the way my 3 year old will run full tilt directly into things sometimes!
To quote my parent's favorite Cosby quote "all children have brain damage!"
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Yeah, I'd also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they're doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You still ignored the first half.
Regardless, if they're logging, you can talk to them about the important parts without wasting several hours of important staff time every day between all of the parents. This isn't instead of talking to them, it's in addition.
This is also just super useful for all of the staff. Did Timmy just have a snack? No he doesn't need another. Did each staff member change Timmy's diaper today? We wouldn't have known it happened 5 times without the log, because that's not something you talk about every time.
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You still ignored the first half.
Regardless, if they're logging, you can talk to them about the important parts without wasting several hours of important staff time every day between all of the parents. This isn't instead of talking to them, it's in addition.
This is also just super useful for all of the staff. Did Timmy just have a snack? No he doesn't need another. Did each staff member change Timmy's diaper today? We wouldn't have known it happened 5 times without the log, because that's not something you talk about every time.
wrote last edited by [email protected]If it's important they'll remember. Talking to people, seeing how they're doing, isn't a waste of time in my opinion. Au contraire, it's rather important!
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I turned out fine so it clearly was. Not sure how my parents knowing a minute by minute breakdown of every time I wiped my ass would have improved anything.
I turned out fine so it clearly was.
Not everyone else did.
