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  • sjmarf@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

    Not my OC. OOP was told about this and left the post up anyway 🙂

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    I wonder if Miss Emely appreciated that. Hell, did anybody ask Noam before blasting his dirty laundry all over the internet?

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      Not even close to right, fed says it can be 10:1 no more then 16:1 sooo that is still minutes out of each hour. And that is if everything is running smooth and children are anything but smooth. And I am speaking up because again I think its dystopian, I would rather the person in charge of my child TALK TO ME, and we can learn what to expect and want from the relationship then them sitting on phones or tablets logging every last thing my child did.
      And I must point out that your math is bad, 7x5 isnt 30. If you need precision in your childcare you should strive for it in yourself.

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      So you want the caretaker to spend 5-10 minutes chatting to you instead of spending a few seconds logging?

      Who’s watching the other kids while the caretaker has all their attention on you during pickup?

      Your suggestion takes more time and leaves less time to spend are taking other kids.

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        you would think they would have all these other workers that can cover while you talk to the parent. Also I would assume that mgmt is out and about more to help at drop off and pickup.

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        So the same doesn’t apply for doing logging, which takes less time?

        Also, stuff gets forgotten, with a log done right away, stuff isn’t forgotten. You think as you say one person can remember the issues of 30 different kids?

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          I just asked a few of my friends with kids in daycare. One said (valley cali) said the daycare had like 300 - 500 kids there. Then another (Tenn, outside of Nash) She said there was 70 there when she first started with them and its more now a year later. I dont think kindergardens have like 10 in them either. to be fair those daycares do have a lot of care givers but 10:1 seem like what they are seeing.

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          If that daycare has 50 employees, what’s the issue? The numbers don’t matter, it’s the amount of people under one caretaker that’s the issue.

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            Assisting?

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              Assisting?

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              I think they've got the assassination thing covered, no need to assist.

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                  Management can not just slot in to replace an educator.

                  Especially not when you have 6 rooms of adults picking their kids up after finishing work at 5.

                  The simple matter of fact is there is not enough time to talk to ~20 families each evening and give a summary of their kids day.

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                  If nothing unusual happened you don't need a summary. When I was getting picked up my conversation with my dad was "how was school?", "fine" 99% of the time. If I got sick or injured myself, sure, explain, but that was rare. Same for most of the other kids.

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                    If nothing unusual happened you don't need a summary. When I was getting picked up my conversation with my dad was "how was school?", "fine" 99% of the time. If I got sick or injured myself, sure, explain, but that was rare. Same for most of the other kids.

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                    No, that’s not sufficient. I’m sorry you were let down by the educational standards at the time.

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                      No, that’s not sufficient. I’m sorry you were let down by the educational standards at the time.

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                      I turned out fine so it clearly was. Not sure how my parents knowing a minute by minute breakdown of every time I wiped my ass would have improved anything.

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                        Some parents don't have time. You knock off work, pick the kids up, and get home and prepare dinner so they can get to bed at a decent time. If you have older kids who need to get to other places, then there's another constrain. If you need to get to the shops or bank or something you have to cut some tasks out to meet your priorities.

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                        yeah cutting out talking to the caregivers of my child is the first thing I would cut.

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                          Management can not just slot in to replace an educator.

                          Especially not when you have 6 rooms of adults picking their kids up after finishing work at 5.

                          The simple matter of fact is there is not enough time to talk to ~20 families each evening and give a summary of their kids day.

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                          I would think that in itself is a problem. mgmt should be able to and understand the caregivers.

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                            What federal limit are you referencing? Federally funded Early Head Start classes serving students under 36 months old must have two teachers with no more than 8 children (4:1 ratio). CFR 1302.21(b)(2). Kids in diapers will probably be under 36 months.

                            Many states have their own requirements.

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                            that is the classes one, these are caregivers not teachers. I was referring to https://childcare.gov/consumer-education/regulated-child-care/supervision-ratios-and-group-sizes

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                              I turned out fine so it clearly was. Not sure how my parents knowing a minute by minute breakdown of every time I wiped my ass would have improved anything.

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                              That’s the same excuse people who hit their kids use. You could have turned out even better, with better care and education.

                              As for tracking nappy changes, it can help with assessing any health issues and tracking long term trends, it’s useful for toileting as we can see how frequently and volume of accidents to help understand their needs for prompting, it’s useful for parents to know if for example they’re going out straight away and need to change before hand, and it’s useful for child protection (our records show that this educator changed the nappy at the time of the incident etc).

                              Now maybe you never ever needed any of this, that’s great but it still helps other people. Helicopter parenting is not letting your children go play with friends and driving them to piano lessons at age 3, it’s not checking a nappy record every now and then.

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                                that is the classes one, these are caregivers not teachers. I was referring to https://childcare.gov/consumer-education/regulated-child-care/supervision-ratios-and-group-sizes

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                                Got it, thanks. Looks about the same, for what it's worth: recommended ratio for children 13-35 months old is 4:1.

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                                  Never trust auto correct

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                                    yeah but you are pulling their attention for that, logging that is time they are not dealing with children.

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                                    They're spending that time doing diaper changes. They're not attending to the other kids regardless.

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                                      Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.

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                                        Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.

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                                        In their defence looking through the black bars reveals that there are multiple caretakers collectively taking care of the children, so it becomes necessary to track what care has already been given to the kids so all the adults can coordinate.

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                                          Got it, thanks. Looks about the same, for what it's worth: recommended ratio for children 13-35 months old is 4:1.

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                                          And that seems reasonable, those are the ones that would need the most physical intervention (like helping them stay upright).

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