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    Assisting?

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    I think they've got the assassination thing covered, no need to assist.

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        Management can not just slot in to replace an educator.

        Especially not when you have 6 rooms of adults picking their kids up after finishing work at 5.

        The simple matter of fact is there is not enough time to talk to ~20 families each evening and give a summary of their kids day.

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        If nothing unusual happened you don't need a summary. When I was getting picked up my conversation with my dad was "how was school?", "fine" 99% of the time. If I got sick or injured myself, sure, explain, but that was rare. Same for most of the other kids.

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          If nothing unusual happened you don't need a summary. When I was getting picked up my conversation with my dad was "how was school?", "fine" 99% of the time. If I got sick or injured myself, sure, explain, but that was rare. Same for most of the other kids.

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          No, that’s not sufficient. I’m sorry you were let down by the educational standards at the time.

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            No, that’s not sufficient. I’m sorry you were let down by the educational standards at the time.

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            I turned out fine so it clearly was. Not sure how my parents knowing a minute by minute breakdown of every time I wiped my ass would have improved anything.

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              Some parents don't have time. You knock off work, pick the kids up, and get home and prepare dinner so they can get to bed at a decent time. If you have older kids who need to get to other places, then there's another constrain. If you need to get to the shops or bank or something you have to cut some tasks out to meet your priorities.

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              yeah cutting out talking to the caregivers of my child is the first thing I would cut.

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                Management can not just slot in to replace an educator.

                Especially not when you have 6 rooms of adults picking their kids up after finishing work at 5.

                The simple matter of fact is there is not enough time to talk to ~20 families each evening and give a summary of their kids day.

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                I would think that in itself is a problem. mgmt should be able to and understand the caregivers.

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                  What federal limit are you referencing? Federally funded Early Head Start classes serving students under 36 months old must have two teachers with no more than 8 children (4:1 ratio). CFR 1302.21(b)(2). Kids in diapers will probably be under 36 months.

                  Many states have their own requirements.

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                  that is the classes one, these are caregivers not teachers. I was referring to https://childcare.gov/consumer-education/regulated-child-care/supervision-ratios-and-group-sizes

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                    I turned out fine so it clearly was. Not sure how my parents knowing a minute by minute breakdown of every time I wiped my ass would have improved anything.

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                    #53

                    That’s the same excuse people who hit their kids use. You could have turned out even better, with better care and education.

                    As for tracking nappy changes, it can help with assessing any health issues and tracking long term trends, it’s useful for toileting as we can see how frequently and volume of accidents to help understand their needs for prompting, it’s useful for parents to know if for example they’re going out straight away and need to change before hand, and it’s useful for child protection (our records show that this educator changed the nappy at the time of the incident etc).

                    Now maybe you never ever needed any of this, that’s great but it still helps other people. Helicopter parenting is not letting your children go play with friends and driving them to piano lessons at age 3, it’s not checking a nappy record every now and then.

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                      that is the classes one, these are caregivers not teachers. I was referring to https://childcare.gov/consumer-education/regulated-child-care/supervision-ratios-and-group-sizes

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                      Got it, thanks. Looks about the same, for what it's worth: recommended ratio for children 13-35 months old is 4:1.

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                        Never trust auto correct

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                          yeah but you are pulling their attention for that, logging that is time they are not dealing with children.

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                          They're spending that time doing diaper changes. They're not attending to the other kids regardless.

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                            Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.

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                              Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.

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                              In their defence looking through the black bars reveals that there are multiple caretakers collectively taking care of the children, so it becomes necessary to track what care has already been given to the kids so all the adults can coordinate.

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                                Got it, thanks. Looks about the same, for what it's worth: recommended ratio for children 13-35 months old is 4:1.

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                                And that seems reasonable, those are the ones that would need the most physical intervention (like helping them stay upright).

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                                  They're spending that time doing diaper changes. They're not attending to the other kids regardless.

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                                  I would think that they dont stack a caregiver that hard with infants and full on running 2+ year olds. But I still would rather them just spend a few min talking to me then having to log shit.

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                                    In their defence looking through the black bars reveals that there are multiple caretakers collectively taking care of the children, so it becomes necessary to track what care has already been given to the kids so all the adults can coordinate.

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                                    no?????? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I'd be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!

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                                      Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.

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                                      Looks like a daycare that's taking care of toddlers and infants. Logging these events makes a bit more sense as you have to be at least roughly aware of this stuff to keep an eye out for potential health issues. The kid isn't able to convey things directly so you have to look for signs. If diapers aren't being soiled, then you might need a medical exam, for example.

                                      The precision of the timestamps might seem a bit needlessly specific, but if you are noting it electronically, might as well let the system time-stamp it.

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                                        I would think that they dont stack a caregiver that hard with infants and full on running 2+ year olds. But I still would rather them just spend a few min talking to me then having to log shit.

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                                        We're just talking about doing a diaper change. I don't know how you can call that "stacking a caregiver hard".

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                                          no?????? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I'd be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!

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                                          I'm not sure I agree. 10 or so kids lets them get a lot of practice socializing, with 3-4 caretakers. Without a tool like this, it's really easy to miss that nobody's needed to change little Mikey's diaper today - but that's information that can be important for them and the parents to know.

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