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  • R [email protected]

    That doesn't seem weirdly detailed to me? Kid bumped their head and they wrote down what happened.

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    Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.

    Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.

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    • J [email protected]

      Looks like a daycare that's taking care of toddlers and infants. Logging these events makes a bit more sense as you have to be at least roughly aware of this stuff to keep an eye out for potential health issues. The kid isn't able to convey things directly so you have to look for signs. If diapers aren't being soiled, then you might need a medical exam, for example.

      The precision of the timestamps might seem a bit needlessly specific, but if you are noting it electronically, might as well let the system time-stamp it.

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      Don't think it's system timestamps, as they're curiously rounded

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        Let's not put the blame only on the parents. Anyone who has spent more than 30 seconds working for a corp would understand that taking credit for work does not mean the work got done.

        Assuming the diapers aren't tracked by barcode and there isn't an independent inspector validating each operation, I would be MORE wary about my kid being well taken care of at a place that measures and tracks work this way. Especially since the types of management that would think this was a good idea are also the type to not understand how work actually gets done and drives to making the metrics look good at the expense of actually caring for human children.

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        Have you ever actually been to a daycare as an adult?

        They're not tracking timestamps by hand, they're going up to a tablet, tapping baby name and then tapping diaper/wet or started nap.

        Having a sense of how often a kid is eating, sleeping and going to the bathroom is really important because those are health indicators and they can't tell you how they feel. The caretakers are going to take notes one way or another and give them to the parents so they can be aware of any trends.

        They are also subject to surprise inspections government inspectors to verify that they're following the various rules.

        This is seriously just the standard type of logging that anyone tasked with caring for another person is going to be doing.

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        • I [email protected]

          Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.

          Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.

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          #84

          It's an app. Do you actually think they're manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There's also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
          You're caring for someone else's child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that's good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?

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            Hadn't noticed. I think you'd have to try to get translucent boxes versus a simple solid box. Seems intentional?

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            If you took the highlighter tool and changed the color to black, it may default to semitransparent. It’s useful if you’re trying to highlight something in fluorescent yellow.

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              And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each (lets hope they just have to click a button and not add fucking notes to each one) so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up. God forbid its a real winner of a day and every other child is just walking into walls and tripping all over the place. I am sure they need this dumb shit added to their workload.

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              30 times 5 seconds is 2.5 minutes, and that's for a stupendously overworked person. Like "CPS call" levels of understaffing at what would be an unlicensed facility.
              A more realistic number is under a minute per hour.

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                It's an app. Do you actually think they're manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There's also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
                You're caring for someone else's child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that's good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?

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                just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes.

                I was referring to the amount of them. 3 in half an hour 😕 For no good reason.

                the law says if you felt the need to do..

                Luckily the law is different where I live. I'd rather have my child taken care of by a human, instead of a flowchart 🙂

                Do you have a different criteria

                When the caretaker feels like something important happened

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                • I [email protected]

                  Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.

                  Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.

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                  Sounds like a really good way to have half of these things forgotten throughout the day and never told to the parents 🤷‍♂️ logging this on the tablet takes literally 5 seconds, instead of having to spend 5 minutes with each parent at pickup

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                    Sounds like a really good way to have half of these things forgotten throughout the day and never told to the parents 🤷‍♂️ logging this on the tablet takes literally 5 seconds, instead of having to spend 5 minutes with each parent at pickup

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                    Yeah, I'd also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they're doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.

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                      Yeah, I'd also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they're doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.

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                      Sure, but those 5 minutes add up in a whole daycare.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        no?????? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I'd be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!

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                        Half the time I have to check with my wife what cares were done recently when my nonverbal kid gets fussy to try to identify why they're fussy. Logging makes it so instead of asking one can check the log, especially useful if the previous care person isn't available to be asked now

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                          Yeah, let’s have concussed children take a nap

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                          Sounds like diaper aged kids, so they bump into things all the time and will cry for 30 seconds because it was scary then forget that anything happened and be fine. You should see the way my 3 year old will run full tilt directly into things sometimes!

                          To quote my parent's favorite Cosby quote "all children have brain damage!"

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                            Yeah, I'd also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they're doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.

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                            You still ignored the first half.

                            Regardless, if they're logging, you can talk to them about the important parts without wasting several hours of important staff time every day between all of the parents. This isn't instead of talking to them, it's in addition.

                            This is also just super useful for all of the staff. Did Timmy just have a snack? No he doesn't need another. Did each staff member change Timmy's diaper today? We wouldn't have known it happened 5 times without the log, because that's not something you talk about every time.

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                              You still ignored the first half.

                              Regardless, if they're logging, you can talk to them about the important parts without wasting several hours of important staff time every day between all of the parents. This isn't instead of talking to them, it's in addition.

                              This is also just super useful for all of the staff. Did Timmy just have a snack? No he doesn't need another. Did each staff member change Timmy's diaper today? We wouldn't have known it happened 5 times without the log, because that's not something you talk about every time.

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                              If it's important they'll remember. Talking to people, seeing how they're doing, isn't a waste of time in my opinion. Au contraire, it's rather important!

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                                I turned out fine so it clearly was. Not sure how my parents knowing a minute by minute breakdown of every time I wiped my ass would have improved anything.

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                                I turned out fine so it clearly was.

                                Not everyone else did.

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                                  If it's important they'll remember. Talking to people, seeing how they're doing, isn't a waste of time in my opinion. Au contraire, it's rather important!

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                                  If it's important they'll remember.

                                  Absolutely fucking braindead take.

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                                    If it's important they'll remember.

                                    Absolutely fucking braindead take.

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                                    Do you distrust the people who take care of your kid this much?

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                                      I turned out fine so it clearly was.

                                      Not everyone else did.

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                                      So provide more info to the special cases that need it.

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                                        I have to log timesheets at work to say what I've been doing. I have a section everyday in my timetable schedule to fill in the timesheet. So when I'm filling in the timesheet I have to actually tell them what I was doing for that 4 minutes worth of time.

                                        3:30 p.m. to 3:34 p.m. - filling in timesheet

                                        Really?

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                                        This was unironically one of the worst jobs I ever worked. Management spent months trying to figure out why the night shift couldn't keep up with the same routine work day shift did.

                                        For some reason 2 people < 25 people never really clicked.

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          If I had a kid I would want them to spend as much time as possible looking after the kid. I don't need them to tell me that they're doing that, I assumed that they're doing that so I'm no better off.

                                          Also everyone estimates those things anyway.

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                                          Sorry but it's obvious you don't have kids. You need to know when and how much formula your baby had to not overfeed them. You need to know what a toddler ate if he comes home and throws up/has diarrhea/gets a sudden rash. You need to know when his diaper was changed so you know if you need to change it again when you get home. Etc. You really need that info, and people working in daycare absolutely don't ballpark this as they need to know it as well and they have 18 other kids to take care of so they can't remember it all.

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