Gaza: Evidence points to Israel’s continued use of starvation to inflict genocide against Palestinians
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From your own link:
"This data set, which includes only official deaths in which identification could be confirmed"Who did most of the counting and identification? The Gazan Hospitals that Israel blew up.
Corpses shoved to mass graves by IDF soldiers (who have even posted photos and videos of doing it) don't get counted, much less "identified". And don't get me started op those burried under the rubble of bombed buildings, especially once the Israelis started targetting ambulances and rescue services.
That kind of shit is like mid Nazi Holocaust claiming there were no deaths in Auchwitz, since the Nazis didn't care to keep track of the identity of those they killed hence the count of "official deaths in which identification could be confirmed" was zero.
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Unfortunately the mods removed it but I asked why this is still relevant, as Israel has given them several opportunities to leave and provided sources
Well, for starters, they were blocked off on all sides. Not everyone can afford to move anyway.
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
"Nothing ever happens"
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Unfortunately the mods removed it but I asked why this is still relevant, as Israel has given them several opportunities to leave and provided sources
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because israel is the occupying force who believe the whole land was given to them by god.
If they leave they will never be allowed to come back
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66 children died. During famines children are most endangered and always the vast majority of deaths.
I will give you a pro Palestinian biased source.
The exact number of death in holocust only happened after nazis was defeated. You would have been a holocust denier if you was living during that time
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
Comparisons and metaphors are not equivalency there is no denying the similarity between the tactic used by Nazis and the IDF. A genocide also don't have to be fast, Israel is a sadistic terrorist state that enjoy slow death of Palestinians as people and as an identity
The Nazis systematically carried out mass shootings, gas chamber exterminations, and ghettos to erase entire communities, while the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have conducted mass bombings, airstrikes, and ground assaults in Gaza that have devastated neighborhoods and caused tens of thousands of civilian deaths, including women and children. Where Nazis used ghettos to confine and starve populations, Israel enforces a blockade on Gaza, restricting essential supplies like food, medicine, and fuel, resulting in widespread suffering and death. The Nazis aimed to annihilate entire groups through industrialized killing; similarly, many Israeli soldiers and observers have described their actions in Gaza as indiscriminate and brutal, with some soldiers even admitting they felt like Nazis during operations, targeting civilians and destroying whole neighborhoods. Although the methods differ—mass shootings and gas chambers versus aerial bombardment and siege
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
There's no war. There wasn't any war going on. What happens in Israel is a country having de facto colonies and bloody repression of an uprising.
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Unfortunately the mods removed it but I asked why this is still relevant, as Israel has given them several opportunities to leave and provided sources
Would you be saying the same thing if it was Russia "offering" for Ukrainians to just leave their home?
More importantly, where do you think those 2 million people should go? Who will house and feed them? Israel sure hasn't offered to do it.
Do you have any idea how hard it actually is to leave even for those who want to?
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I did not say a word about democrats, the person trying to bring up differences or indifferences between the two parties IN the US are you.
I only talked about Trump.
Please work on your reading comprehension. Thanks.
The point Aceticon is making is that it doesn't really matter who the US president is when Israel is concerned.
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Would you be saying the same thing if it was Russia "offering" for Ukrainians to just leave their home?
More importantly, where do you think those 2 million people should go? Who will house and feed them? Israel sure hasn't offered to do it.
Do you have any idea how hard it actually is to leave even for those who want to?
the difference here is that gaza is already completely destroyed. It's basically unlivable. Maybe cut your losses instead of holding onto literal rubble
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Because israel is the occupying force who believe the whole land was given to them by god.
If they leave they will never be allowed to come back
uh wrong in fact. A long time ago the founding fathers of israel bought most of the land that is today's israel from palestinian settlers. When they wanted to unite their patches of land they just kicked out the people who refused to sell their land. Arguably not the nicest method but it's not like the palestinians never had a chance.
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Well, for starters, they were blocked off on all sides. Not everyone can afford to move anyway.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/24/middleeast/israel-approves-proposal-to-facilitate-emigration-of-palestinians-from-gaza-intl
^^ it's not like there is no way for them to go, you know
Also, seeking asylum is pretty normal for the arabic areas at this point. It's not like they wouldn't be allowed a life somewhere else
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From your own link:
"This data set, which includes only official deaths in which identification could be confirmed"Who did most of the counting and identification? The Gazan Hospitals that Israel blew up.
Corpses shoved to mass graves by IDF soldiers (who have even posted photos and videos of doing it) don't get counted, much less "identified". And don't get me started op those burried under the rubble of bombed buildings, especially once the Israelis started targetting ambulances and rescue services.
That kind of shit is like mid Nazi Holocaust claiming there were no deaths in Auchwitz, since the Nazis didn't care to keep track of the identity of those they killed hence the count of "official deaths in which identification could be confirmed" was zero.
See. The lancet is is a bad source and the goodshepard is. You can see this by comparing how one weakens my argument while the other one strengthens it.
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uh wrong in fact. A long time ago the founding fathers of israel bought most of the land that is today's israel from palestinian settlers. When they wanted to unite their patches of land they just kicked out the people who refused to sell their land. Arguably not the nicest method but it's not like the palestinians never had a chance.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Liar. They only owned 9% now they control 83% of historic palestine. Owning lands do not give right to declare a state inside it. Especially when most of them was recent imigrants acceptes by the past colonizer.
Zionists never intended to respect the partition
This is what ben gurrion who became later the first prime ministerafter the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine
Israel decided to occupy gaza and west bank in 67. They admit that they started to war
The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him- Menachem Begin
Zionists keep talking about judea and sumaria. They was destroyed so they no longer exists. The west bank is palestinian according to international law. Israel should get out of east jerusalem and all of the west bank
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uh wrong in fact. A long time ago the founding fathers of israel bought most of the land that is today's israel from palestinian settlers. When they wanted to unite their patches of land they just kicked out the people who refused to sell their land. Arguably not the nicest method but it's not like the palestinians never had a chance.
That didn't contradict anything. You even use the word wrong wrong.
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the difference here is that gaza is already completely destroyed. It's basically unlivable. Maybe cut your losses instead of holding onto literal rubble
Maybe israel should completely stop occupation and let palestinaina by themslves where to live
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That didn't contradict anything. You even use the word wrong wrong.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That scum claimed that most of israel was bought by zionists while they only owner 9% and allude to the idea that palestinians are not indigenous to the land by calling them settlers.
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"The Lancet is a weekly peer-reviewed general medical journal"
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wrote last edited by [email protected]If you had ever read the Lancet you would know that not everything in there is peer reviewed.
The piece you probably mean was published under correspondence, meaning letters from readers, which is explicitly not peer reviewed as per the Lancet itself.
Correspondence - Our readers’ reflections on content published in the Lancet journals or on other topics of general interest to our readers. These letters may be published as exchanges with authors’ replies.
It's not a peer reviewed article.
Article - Peer reviewed reports of original research that are likely to change clinical practice, policy or substantially change thinking about a disease. These include interventional clinical trials, observational studies, modelling studies, and meta-analyses.
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66 children died. During famines children are most endangered and always the vast majority of deaths.
I will give you a pro Palestinian biased source.
Since May 27, Tel Aviv and Washington have jointly implemented a controversial aid distribution plan that bypasses UN oversight. Palestinian officials say the Israeli army has repeatedly opened fire on civilians waiting in line for aid, leaving them with a horrific choice: starve or risk being shot.
According to the Gaza Ministry of Health, at least 549 Palestinians have been killed and over 4,066 wounded while attempting to access food from these aid centers since the program began.
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
The number of people dying isn't really the focus; six million+ died in The Holocaust and the pre-oct7 population of Gaza was about two million. By the standard of 'number of deaths' Gaza can never be 'like the holocaust'.
As others have said, tactics used and eradication intention are really what makes this like the holocaust.
