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I may swear like a pirate, but I'm a fucking PRINCIPLED pirate

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  • P [email protected]

    Fuck that, you're not my real dad! Plus, I learned it from you, fartfucker.

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    The mentor has become the mentos. I am proud of you son/daughter/some random kid I found. Go forth and make some swearwolves of your own.

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      I cant believe i have to explain this but...

      There's lots of ways you can refer to people. Some are respectful, some are not.

      This might shock you but some parents teach their kids to be respectful of others. Avoiding labelling people in ways they might not appreciate is a good start.

      It may be a "fact" that someone is an "illegal immigrant" but I'm sure you can see that term is intended to portray the person in a specific way.

      Its also a fact that such a person is an undocumented migrant trying to feed their family, or maybe even an asylum seekers fleeing persecution.

      So yes, representing facts in a racist way is racist. Well done.

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      How tf is it racist to say someone is an illegal immigrant if they're an immigrant who came in illegally? At the face of it those words can be used totally neutrally

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        They're the no-no word because someone used them to hurt someone else.
        I don't know what "removed" means, I assume it's black in spanish or something, it doesn't make sense on it's own.
        It's just a word that people used to hurt other people, so we can't use them.
        Literally, "we can't have nice things" applied to word, although, whatever that word means, I guess we have other words that mean black so, ok, whatever, we still have plenty of other 6 letter words so "meh".

        Would be nice if people stopped being such shitheads and using group dominance to subjugate other groups.

        I think instead of attacking words, we should attack the mechanic behind them ?
        If the slur comes out it's already too late, the dominance play has already infected them.

        It has to be defused before they even say it. Find why people are being so shit, it's not just a reaction, it's not the word itself making them do it.

        There a reason why they become nasty slur-spewing goblins.

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        Sure, and it's not like there arent any efforts towards that.

        But since hate words do exist we don't use them in order to not empower further the mechanics/shitheads that do use/promote them.

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        • godric@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

          Nice sentiment, but where shitpost?

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          You came for the circle jerks but til this stable is full you only get horseshoe handies.

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          • track_shovel@slrpnk.netT [email protected]

            Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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            Look me in the eyes and tell me you don't judge people who wear red hats.

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              Sure, and it's not like there arent any efforts towards that.

              But since hate words do exist we don't use them in order to not empower further the mechanics/shitheads that do use/promote them.

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              Why isn't this solved already ?
              Why does it persist ?
              Do the people who proclaim to be doing something about it gain something for it persisting so it never get actually solved ?
              I mean, even as I figure out what they're for and how they're being used, surely this has been going on for centuries if not millennia.
              So why is that shit still even around ?
              You'd think we'd have it figured out by now, dealt with and ready when the next duckface tries that crap.
              But I guess not...

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                Nice try Tik Tok

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                Tiktok??

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                • D [email protected]

                  What is the real difference between 'fuck" and 'frak'? Or 'god damn' and 'gosh darn'. They mean the exact same thing but one is bad and one is fine? That's just dumb.

                  We don't censor our kids except by situation. They can swear at home but not at school, for example. But that's mostly because of how general society perceives swear words and not the words themselves.

                  Words are given power through meaning. We teach our kids about meaning. And words to hurt others are not allowed. Saying fuck is fine but calling someone a fucker is not. But we don't allow them to call someone stupid, either.

                  Racist/dehumanizing words have power through meaning, not really the words themselves. The words just end up changing because those racists still want to convey what they mean. Teach people to be better about the meaning of what they say, not the specific words they use.

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                  The best way to teach not only kids but pretty much anyone is through example. I don't forbid my kids from swearing but I don't swear in front of them.

                  I teach them there is a time and place for every word.

                  But saying "I swear in front of my kids but I'm not a racist" is just lazy. It's basically saying "I'm just ok at what at I do because I'm kinda selfish"

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                    That's dumb as shit.

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                    It isn't and you know it. I doubt very much they you go out of your way to swear in front of kids... Do you?

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                    • track_shovel@slrpnk.netT [email protected]

                      Get fucked.

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                      Lol. Ya... Tracks.

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                        What a fucking dweeb posting a shittier post on a shitpost golf clap

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                        Are you hearing yourself.

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                          The best way to teach not only kids but pretty much anyone is through example. I don't forbid my kids from swearing but I don't swear in front of them.

                          I teach them there is a time and place for every word.

                          But saying "I swear in front of my kids but I'm not a racist" is just lazy. It's basically saying "I'm just ok at what at I do because I'm kinda selfish"

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                          So it's ok for your kids to use the words but you just don't swear in front of them? Isn't that just being a passive parent?

                          We don't judge other parents for the choices they make, and in fact we teach our kids to not swear in front of other kids. But that's no different then speech used with friends and speech used in a professional setting. Everyone adjusts their speech by setting.

                          We do teach not just by example but by also making sure they understand the meaning they are trying to convey. For ALL words. The difference between the meaning of racist words and non-disparaging swear words is an ocean. Swear words are really just regular words while racist words are meant to hurt someone. We don't allow any words that are meant to hurt, no matter what that word actually is.

                          To me using frak, heck, gosh, darn, etc is the exact same as the equivalent swear words.

                          Allowing swears also takes away their taboo nature. My wife's nephew was brought up the same way and was the only one in his friend group to NOT get in trouble for swearing at school. He knew the time and place.

                          To me, teaching to base language on the meaning and not word itself is the opposite of lazy.

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                            He fits every single definition of the Antichrist with little reaching.

                            Down to the head wound and the mark of the best upon their forehead.

                            https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

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                            Asking if people could spot the antichrist has always seemed paradoxical to me. Isn't the antichrist's defining thing that he will deceive people into following him? Lost cause imo

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                              It isn't and you know it. I doubt very much they you go out of your way to swear in front of kids... Do you?

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                              I don't go out of my wayto swear, or to not swear... I don't talk about sexual stuff, but swearing is not something I would hide.

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                                Look me in the eyes and tell me you don't judge people who wear red hats.

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                                That's different: judging people for their actions, not who they are.

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                                • track_shovel@slrpnk.netT [email protected]

                                  Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                                  I feel like the days of pearl clutching over profanity are on their way out. There is always a time and a place for it, but I grew up hearing "fuck" come out of my drunken relatives every other word. My parents didn't say it, and they didn't let me say it, but the only real weight the word ever had was that it was cool and exclusive to adults.

                                  One of the biggest culture shocks I had when moving from the US to Canada was how much more laid back everyone is up here over profanity in general. Almost everyone uses it, very few people (save for maybe the elderly) get uppity when they hear it, and I've heard it used freely on FM radio many times. I still think it's trashy to fly a FUCK TRUDEAU flag or decal on your car for everyone to see, but nobodies up here clutching pearls. They just think you're a dick.

                                  Not sure why it's still such a big deal in many parts of the US.

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                                    Look me in the eyes and tell me you don't judge people who wear red hats.

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                                    But then you wouldn’t be judging the person solely for wearing a red hat, but for what the red hat implies, no?

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                                      I feel like the days of pearl clutching over profanity are on their way out. There is always a time and a place for it, but I grew up hearing "fuck" come out of my drunken relatives every other word. My parents didn't say it, and they didn't let me say it, but the only real weight the word ever had was that it was cool and exclusive to adults.

                                      One of the biggest culture shocks I had when moving from the US to Canada was how much more laid back everyone is up here over profanity in general. Almost everyone uses it, very few people (save for maybe the elderly) get uppity when they hear it, and I've heard it used freely on FM radio many times. I still think it's trashy to fly a FUCK TRUDEAU flag or decal on your car for everyone to see, but nobodies up here clutching pearls. They just think you're a dick.

                                      Not sure why it's still such a big deal in many parts of the US.

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                                      Words become more acceptable over time. In centuries past calling someone a devil or saying that they should go to hell would have been deeply offensive. Today these insults are so mild that even schoolchildren say them to each other. Even twenty years ago the word "fuck" was viewed with nearly as much taboo as racial slurs. Now, it's a very common word that people will throw around in a casual context.

                                      Even the word n****r (means "black person") and its non-hard-R variant are starting to lose their offensiveness. In African-American Vernacular it has taken on a variety of inoffensive meanings. It is now only offensive in certain contexts while fifty years ago it was pretty much offensive in all contents.

                                      At the same time, new words emerge and get labelled profane. For example, the word t****y (means "transgender") would not have meant anything twenty years ago, and now it's one of the most offensive words in the English dictionary. Similar story with the word f****t (means "homosexual").

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                                        Words become more acceptable over time. In centuries past calling someone a devil or saying that they should go to hell would have been deeply offensive. Today these insults are so mild that even schoolchildren say them to each other. Even twenty years ago the word "fuck" was viewed with nearly as much taboo as racial slurs. Now, it's a very common word that people will throw around in a casual context.

                                        Even the word n****r (means "black person") and its non-hard-R variant are starting to lose their offensiveness. In African-American Vernacular it has taken on a variety of inoffensive meanings. It is now only offensive in certain contexts while fifty years ago it was pretty much offensive in all contents.

                                        At the same time, new words emerge and get labelled profane. For example, the word t****y (means "transgender") would not have meant anything twenty years ago, and now it's one of the most offensive words in the English dictionary. Similar story with the word f****t (means "homosexual").

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                                        what the fuck is t****y

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                                          what the fuck is t****y

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                                          It's a word also used to refer to a car transmission.

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