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    She's a terrible writer. She has no original or clever ideas, her imagery is boring and vague, and her characters are one dimensional at most. The Robert Galbraith book that I read was really bad, too, and the television offer came after she revealed that it was hers. Fucking Cormoran Strike? What the fuck kind of hacky bullshit name is that? She's a dipshit, which is nothing compared to the fact that she's a hateful bigot.

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    I've not read any Robert Galbraith books. I was just giving an objective measurement.

    People also say Dan Brown is a bad writer and he sells millions of books

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      It happens three times, if we count the one when he was 1 year old

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      Also how gilderoy lockheart is defeated

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        I tried reading them as a kid and thought they were shit then. I realise now the biggest problems I had with it were the total absence of brick jokes (or whatever the literary equivalent is), the utter refusal to engage in foreshadowing, and the lack of character development.

        Harry Potter was the best person but everyone else was a dick. "Gosh I wish something fun would happen" said Harry. Then Magic Headteacher turned up and it turns out that Harry is famous and rich and amazing! "Come and learn to be wizard and a celebrity" said Haggis, "you are amazing and have no choice". And he did. And his stepbrother was fat. Then Harry learned to play Quitit. Albino McVillain said "I've been playing my who life. You'll never be as good as me". And Albino was correct, Harry could only win if he was given a broomstick called a Plonko 9000. Then, Harry got a mystery package. It was a Plonko 9000 and he won. "I am a wizard!" whispered Harry, "but I will still share my chocolates because he is a good person". And he was. "Special people are born special and that's why they're special," said everyone.

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        I count the lack of brick jokes and foreshadowing as a plus in any book. Also, it is a series of young adult books, you can't read too much into it. Rowling may be a shit person, but the books are the books.

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          Expecto* Patronum

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          Combined with a BJ, erecto patronum works better.

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            Trying to apply logic to JKR's writing leads to madness.

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            The fanfic that tried to apply logic to JKR's writing lead to an actual, real life murder.

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              Doesn't that spell even break the rules of the setting? What I'm meaning is that with basically all other spells, just saying the words isn't enough, there's a mental element to it, which is related to what the spell is supposed to do. So, casting a spell without knowing what it does should be impossible.

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              I love Harry Potter but facing the facts it is very badly crafted and full of inconsistencies like this.

              Obligatory: JKR turned out to be a horrible person and dies not deserve any of our money or attention.

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                I've not read any Robert Galbraith books. I was just giving an objective measurement.

                People also say Dan Brown is a bad writer and he sells millions of books

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                Statistically, the most popular restaurant in America is Wendy's (excluding dessert and donut shops). Wendy's is pretty good for fast food, but it's objectively not high quality food. That's not to say people shouldn't enjoy it, but if you're learning to be a chef, you're probably not aspiring to mass produce baconators.

                I've read two Dan Brown books (Angels and Demons and DaVinci Code). I've read 8 Rowling books.

                My criticism of Dan Brown would be that he wrote one book and then wrote it again. It's not great literature, but it's easy to read and doesn't strain the mind with complexity. I understand that he's written four more novels, but I haven't read them. I have heard people say that it's the same formula, and if you enjoy it, there's no judgement here. Reading should be fun and exactly as challenging as you want it to be.

                Dan Brown also made absurd amounts of money. Do you know what he thinks about trans rights? No, you don't, because he doesn't use his position of relative privilege to be a shitbag to minorities. Maybe he's a bigot, but I wouldn't assume that of anyone without evidence. Dan Brown created a series of popular books and then fucked off to cheat on his wife. That's all we know about him.

                Rowling, by contrast, is a garbage human being. She's actively awful, and goes out of her way to stir shit up and make life miserable for people she doesn't know and will never meet. She is a bigot, and isn't shy about spreading hateful propaganda or punching down. Being a bad writer is the very least of her flaws, but it is among her flaws. When people compare her to other artists who have created masterpieces but had "problematic" personal lives, the comparison is distorted by both the lack of quality to her art and the magnitude of her shittiness as a human. Even if you can separate the art from the artist, it's like picking the solid shit nuggets from a massive steaming pile of diarrhea.

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                  Kid named Night Comet:

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                  Bingo! Double 'nothing but a walking stick' carrier.

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                    The fanfic that tried to apply logic to JKR's writing lead to an actual, real life murder.

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                    O.o wait what.

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                      There's a good fanfic series that tries to apply science to the HP universe. I made it like 50 pages into the 300+ page book which is longer than I'd usually read a fanfic for.

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                      good

                      You and I have very different ideas of what the word 'good' means, lol. The first, like, two chapters were fine as lampooning the poorly thought out logic of rowling's world, but by chapter 8 or so it just was the same thing over and over again: mary sue thinker boy immediately noticing the giant flaws of the main author and having already rationalized the perfect exploit in a split second.

                      If it really became good later, well, first impressions matter and it had a pretty bad one.

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                        The fanfic that tried to apply logic to JKR's writing lead to an actual, real life murder.

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                        Please explain

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                          good

                          You and I have very different ideas of what the word 'good' means, lol. The first, like, two chapters were fine as lampooning the poorly thought out logic of rowling's world, but by chapter 8 or so it just was the same thing over and over again: mary sue thinker boy immediately noticing the giant flaws of the main author and having already rationalized the perfect exploit in a split second.

                          If it really became good later, well, first impressions matter and it had a pretty bad one.

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                          I also say in the next sentence I only made it 50 pages in. Not really a fanfic person so hard to judge the quality of it (my prejudice would be that most of it is shite).

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                            Then he banged his best friend's sister.

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                            Which is honestly pretty standard for the real world. Limited social circles and hot times blended well for millennia, why not continue the tradition at this point if both parties are willing? That's probably the most accurate character portrayal rowling ever made.

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                              Statistically, the most popular restaurant in America is Wendy's (excluding dessert and donut shops). Wendy's is pretty good for fast food, but it's objectively not high quality food. That's not to say people shouldn't enjoy it, but if you're learning to be a chef, you're probably not aspiring to mass produce baconators.

                              I've read two Dan Brown books (Angels and Demons and DaVinci Code). I've read 8 Rowling books.

                              My criticism of Dan Brown would be that he wrote one book and then wrote it again. It's not great literature, but it's easy to read and doesn't strain the mind with complexity. I understand that he's written four more novels, but I haven't read them. I have heard people say that it's the same formula, and if you enjoy it, there's no judgement here. Reading should be fun and exactly as challenging as you want it to be.

                              Dan Brown also made absurd amounts of money. Do you know what he thinks about trans rights? No, you don't, because he doesn't use his position of relative privilege to be a shitbag to minorities. Maybe he's a bigot, but I wouldn't assume that of anyone without evidence. Dan Brown created a series of popular books and then fucked off to cheat on his wife. That's all we know about him.

                              Rowling, by contrast, is a garbage human being. She's actively awful, and goes out of her way to stir shit up and make life miserable for people she doesn't know and will never meet. She is a bigot, and isn't shy about spreading hateful propaganda or punching down. Being a bad writer is the very least of her flaws, but it is among her flaws. When people compare her to other artists who have created masterpieces but had "problematic" personal lives, the comparison is distorted by both the lack of quality to her art and the magnitude of her shittiness as a human. Even if you can separate the art from the artist, it's like picking the solid shit nuggets from a massive steaming pile of diarrhea.

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                              People are very bad writers on average. Rowling being slightly above average doesn't make her good.

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                                The fanfic that tried to apply logic to JKR's writing lead to an actual, real life murder.

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                                You mean the one by the AI wackjob/rationality cultist?

                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality

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                                  Combined with a BJ, erecto patronum works better.

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                                  Considering "expecto patronum" it's jkr pseudolatin for "dad's coming"...

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                                    That pic made me laugh way too hard

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                                      I count the lack of brick jokes and foreshadowing as a plus in any book. Also, it is a series of young adult books, you can't read too much into it. Rowling may be a shit person, but the books are the books.

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                                      brick jokes

                                      Huh, now I know what to call that kind of joke. My DnD group love them.

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                                        I tried reading them as a kid and thought they were shit then. I realise now the biggest problems I had with it were the total absence of brick jokes (or whatever the literary equivalent is), the utter refusal to engage in foreshadowing, and the lack of character development.

                                        Harry Potter was the best person but everyone else was a dick. "Gosh I wish something fun would happen" said Harry. Then Magic Headteacher turned up and it turns out that Harry is famous and rich and amazing! "Come and learn to be wizard and a celebrity" said Haggis, "you are amazing and have no choice". And he did. And his stepbrother was fat. Then Harry learned to play Quitit. Albino McVillain said "I've been playing my who life. You'll never be as good as me". And Albino was correct, Harry could only win if he was given a broomstick called a Plonko 9000. Then, Harry got a mystery package. It was a Plonko 9000 and he won. "I am a wizard!" whispered Harry, "but I will still share my chocolates because he is a good person". And he was. "Special people are born special and that's why they're special," said everyone.

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                                        Hands down the best summary of the books

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                                          There's always the seven seas, it's always morally correct

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                                          What are the ù seas but a huge library ?

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