Plex now want to SELL your personal data
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ohyeah im fully aware.
Will they actually delete it or will they just mark it in database as deleted? Are big companies like google going to send their tech workers to go through all their tapes and databases archived all around the world and prove they actually deleted your data? Are there enough consequences to ensure companies actually scrub your data rather than do the bare minimum?First of all, the European Data Protection Board have shown they are more than willing to throw their weight around issue large fines and request audits. Second of all, have you actually looked at the types of data data brokers buy and sell? Massive records of IPs, and metrics.
Like above what "amazing treasure trove of personal data" are you giving up by clicking "I Accept". Search queries of the Plex Free Movie\TV library, watch times of the same free library and whether you click on pre, mid or post roll ads. And who is going to buy and sell this? Ad providers who swear they are providing targeted advertising, but really have quotas and metrics to fill. They will end up showing irrelevant ads anyway, not because of some algorithm, but literally because the advertising industry does not give two shits about click through rates just that ads get shown.
There's so much bitching in this thread like someone from AdSense or Outbrain has personally murdered a family member, but the truth is, these places are a grift. Annoying, yes, but mostly harmless. Oh and don't try to pull "oh but governments can use this for surveillance" yes they could but as someone who has held a job a federal level tax office, they do not have the budget for profiling people like this and a corrupt government has cheaper and better options.
I will try my best to respect your opinion and what you think a "right to privacy" means but I have great trouble understanding the paranoia
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Odd, since my Jellyfin sits behind a reverse proxy.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Oh, right, it was basic auth (behind a reverse proxy, or even in general) that Jellyfin doesn't support and isn't planned to support IIRC.
Here is a GitHub issue where they said they don't plan on supporting it: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-android/issues/123
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Sure thing zelot
That doesn't many any sense, because I just specifically told you that it doesn't matter to anyone but you whether or not you use Jellyfin... If it mattered to me, then yeah, sure. I'd be a zealot. But I don't give a shit what you personally use.
Also, pointing out the fact that Jellyfin is pretty indisputably better for people in this specific space isn't zealotry. It's just good common sense.
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That doesn't many any sense, because I just specifically told you that it doesn't matter to anyone but you whether or not you use Jellyfin... If it mattered to me, then yeah, sure. I'd be a zealot. But I don't give a shit what you personally use.
Also, pointing out the fact that Jellyfin is pretty indisputably better for people in this specific space isn't zealotry. It's just good common sense.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think you missed the part where I said that the zelots completely ignore the legitimate reason why people use it over JF. Same reason I use it.
Also you can literally opt out of the data sharing, the button is right there. And if you don't live in a corporate shit hole like the US, data protections make sure that they won't use it without your consent or even store it because it's protected PII.
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https://blog.cloudflare.com/updated-tos
The proxy will auto-CDN content. You need to disable CDN in order to stay in line with TOS. You can use one of the available rules to "fix" this... but this will already be even more above the general person's head that it's just better to tell people to not proxy the plex/jellyfin domain at all.
Oh I think I turned off the CDN, but I'll check, thanks for the tip
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Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/Speedrunning destroying your platform.
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I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/"Updated “Who does Plex share or sell Personal Data with?” to include the Plex activity that you share based on your account visibility and activity settings as well as sharing/sale of certain Personal Data to third parties.
Nothing changes for Plex Accounts created before March 20, 2025 unless you change your preferences here. If you are a new user and created an account after March 20, 2025, you can update your preferences here. The types of data that we may share has not changed We do not and will not collect information about content or titles in your personal media library or what you’ve played. Personal media users: we do NOT, and will not, share or sell any information about the content and titles on or your use of a personal media server. Consent is required by all Plex Accounts created before March 20, 2025 for the sale of their data."Seems like it's just for their other services, which I already assumed they were tracking and selling view counts.
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Mmmmm gross.
I'll leave you with this, though. Shit like this is all goalposts. For now it's just "their" content and not yours. But in 12 months it's gonna be all content. And what excuse will you make for them, then?
I'll switch to jellyfin like a normal adult who actually reads the updates and not a reactionary who just reads thread titles.
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I think you missed the part where I said that the zelots completely ignore the legitimate reason why people use it over JF. Same reason I use it.
Also you can literally opt out of the data sharing, the button is right there. And if you don't live in a corporate shit hole like the US, data protections make sure that they won't use it without your consent or even store it because it's protected PII.
Also you can literally opt out of the data sharing
For now. It's always for now. You used to be able to opt out of Google data sharing too. And Reddit's. And Microsoft's. And Apple's. And your Credit Cards... The list goes on and on and on and on and on.
Soon as a large company realizes that they can vertically increase revenue by selling your data it ceases being an option. A realization that Plex will very soon learn because they've begun to sell data "optionally" for now. Then by next year, or maybe even the year after that it'll no longer be optional.
It always goes this way. Always. I can't even think of a single antithetical example.
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I don't know why everyone in the selfhosting community still even mentions Plex or uses it.
It's closed source, not free; Jellyfin is a no brainer yet people still go to Plex??
Here's why I still use Plex: for me Jellyfin hasn't been easy to work the way I want it to. I mostly access my media on an Nvidia Shield, and the Jellyfin Android TV app just refuses to play certain videos; I can play them if I use VLC as an external player, but not within the app itself. The more pressing issue is that Jellyfin just refuses to play 5.1 audio, and downmixes everything to stereo. I have other issues, but these are the ones that prevent me from using it.
For me Plex just works.
