Thoughts on bringing sportbots.xyz to Lemmy?

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Seems a lot. I already feel like I stretch myself too thin sometimes, and I'm just a poster, not an admin of 15 instances.

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If you intend to create inorganic content like that maybe the best solution would be a dedicated community so that folks who are happy to have updates and be able to discuss with folks can go there, and other folks can avoid it

I get that's not what you wanna discuss, but as I think you can see that's pretty important to the culture of this space for a lot of people, and anything you build will be more successful if you're mindful of that human aspect. It's at least as important as any technical choice, if not more

(Overlooking the human or social considerations for purely technical ones is a open source community pet-peeve of mine. Everything here is intrinsically collaborative and needs to be pro-social to truly succeed.)

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I always enjoy seeing pug Jesus posts cause he posts little context blurbs for his history memes so I get to learn about stuff, and sometimes I've asked him stuff and he's taught me all about certain parts of history ️

His memes come with story time lol.

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Thanks, I appreciate hearing it!

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Running the topic-specific instances is not the hard part. The hard part would be to manually find content, posting and then ensuring that it is replicated across the whole Fediverse.

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If you intend to create inorganic content like that maybe the best solution would be a dedicated community so that folks who are happy to have updates and be able to discuss with folks can go there, and other folks can avoid it

That is the exact reason why I ended up creating 15+ topic-specific instances, plus alien.top when I started mirroring reddit content. The idea was that the bots would live on alien.top (and could be taken over by their real owner, when they authenticated via Reddit) and all these instances and communities were to be the destination of the posts.

Turns out that even with this separation, some people would still complain about their feed being "taken over" by alien.top. So, people could simply avoid it by simply curating their own feeds and stop "browsing by all".

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Right, but browsing by all is nice to be able to do if you're posting so much all at the same time that it's flooding "c/all" or whatever, then I'm not surprised people would be unhappy

They had a way of engaging with the platform they were happy with, so if abnormal posting patterns of inorganic kinda ruined that for them, of course they're gonna be unhappy about it

Its not unreasonable for people to want the option to use c/all and/or their front page at their discretion, that's why both are there lol. I visit both regularly for different reasons. My feed is mostly small niche communities and then I like to go check out the larger global discussions

I don't think it's particularly fair to argue "well if everyone just engages with this platform in one narrow way (in spite of it having other options baked into it) they wouldn't have this problem"

Like... Sure, but they might not want to engage with it in that one very narrow way and that'd be entirely valid.

When chatting with the guy who curates a feed of loops to post I suggested maybe slowing down the rate of posts because it was drowning everything out for me, and he kindly obliged.

Curration and spacing things out a little bit might also be a good solution here

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Yeah, sorry. I really don't want to rehash this discussion. Browsing by all only makes sense because the whole network is so small that people still believe that drinking from the firehose is the only way that can satiate they content consumption needs. And for the thousands of users here on Lemmy saying "this is too much content", there are tens of millions still locked on Reddit because no other place has the content they are looking for.

Until last year, users could not filter the instances themselves, so it was up to the admins to limit things at the federation level. Newer versions of Lemmy already give this tooling to end users, so if the bots bother them, I am just going to say "sorry, you have everything in your power to stop this from bothering you, go ahead and block it yourself".

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As you said: people are responsible for curating their own feed. If they want that content they can go get it and post it.

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I mean... I used to browse r/all on reddit where there was absolutely no dearth of content. Some folks just like being able to scroll through the bigger global stuff too.

Lots of people did that on reddit. I don't mean to come across as rude or confrontational, but I do kinda feel you might be assuming things about how people engage with link aggregator sites like reddit or lemmy based on how you like to engage with them. People don't just browse the "all" feed if there's not enough in their subscriptions. Sometimes it's nice to see what people are discussing across the broader social space here

If that's flooded with inorganic posts, it changes the experience and takes away someone's ability to do something they wanted to be able to do, and when that happens people generally find it frustrating. Especially if they feel like inorganic content doesn't belong on Lemmy, which isn't exactly an uncommon sentiment. I don't mind inorganic posts personally, but I do think the way you go about it matters.

That's just my two cents. Like I said, I'm not trying to be overly argumentative, I apologise if it feels like I'm turning things into a debate. I just felt there's a perspective missing in this discussion and wanted to contribute

I hope you can support sports discussion on Lemmy in a way you and other Lemmy users can enjoy. Hope you have a good one

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r/all is not the same as drinking from the firehouse. Reddit has other selection algorithms beyond the vote count to build the front page.

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They are not going to go through all this work and if the content is already offered somewhere else.

And if someone is using a program to automate this job which...

gets content from a database of pre-curated accounts
to post it to communities within a proper context

... is bad?

Why?

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Thoughts on bringing sportbots.xyz to Lemmy?