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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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    That excellent gag is how I discovered hbomberguy some years ago

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    What's especially funny is that he didn't even script that, he just came up with it on the spot. And now it's the joke he's most known for.

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      I really want to put Linux on my gaming PC, but I'm doubtful I can get my Rift S working on there. πŸ˜•

      Apparently there is an openxr driver for it, though, so I suppose I should at least give it a shot.

      There's absolutely no way I'm going to win11, though.

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      I got my meta quest 2 working on Linux, so you should definitely just try πŸ™‚

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        I really want to put Linux on my gaming PC, but I'm doubtful I can get my Rift S working on there. πŸ˜•

        Apparently there is an openxr driver for it, though, so I suppose I should at least give it a shot.

        There's absolutely no way I'm going to win11, though.

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        Your best shot is with Monado, which supports the Rift S: https://monado.freedesktop.org/

        I only have an Index, so I can't speak for how well it works or how easy it is to setup.

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          Nobara or Pop! OS would be good choices.

          Yeah, VR is still catching up, but I feel like (dual) booting to Win 10 just for specific purposes would greatly reduce the risk.

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          I'd just be scared of windows trying to clobber my nix partition.

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            I got my meta quest 2 working on Linux, so you should definitely just try πŸ™‚

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            I did read that there were some input issues with the d-pads not working, but that was also 2 years ago so it could've been fixed by now.

            So you're right, I should!

            Pretty sure I've got an old drive around somewhere that I could toss it on.

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            • trenchcoatfullofbats@belfry.ripT [email protected]

              That’s definitely been true in the past, but the gap’s narrowed a lot. GIMP (with plugins) and Krita cover most Photoshop-style workflows, and Inkscape does a pretty good job with vector work. For many graphic design tasks, Linux has solid native tools nowβ€”just takes a bit of adjustment if you’re used to Adobe.

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              GIMP is nowhere close to Photoshop in usability. Don't know about others.

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              • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

                And thanks to Proton you can now do pretty much everything that you can do on Windows. Unless you do graphics design.

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                I have people complaining about simple UI changes. Proton isn’t going to fix that.

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                  Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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                    When will Commerce Secretary Sputnik shill for Windows 11 on Fox?

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                      Nobara or Pop! OS would be good choices.

                      Yeah, VR is still catching up, but I feel like (dual) booting to Win 10 just for specific purposes would greatly reduce the risk.

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                      Just installed ZorinOS on my PC (dual boot with Windows 11) and I'm playing Diablo 4 on Linux. How cool is this?

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                        Seriously, use Linux. What is the problem?

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                        my main problems are the lack of support for Adobe programs and several online games

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                          my main problems are the lack of support for Adobe programs and several online games

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                          Fair, but that's not a Linux problem. Publishers need to support the platform. Is windows bad for not "running" final cut?

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                            Nobara or Pop! OS would be good choices.

                            Yeah, VR is still catching up, but I feel like (dual) booting to Win 10 just for specific purposes would greatly reduce the risk.

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                            Bazzite is better imo

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                              my main problems are the lack of support for Adobe programs and several online games

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                              Go to https://www.goeuropean.org/#products-list and try to enter the Adobe search word. πŸ™‚ Could it be an alternative for you?

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                                Fair, but that's not a Linux problem. Publishers need to support the platform. Is windows bad for not "running" final cut?

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                                Not the fault of Linux, but these are still the "problem" OP asked about regarding switching to Linux.

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                                  I really want to put Linux on my gaming PC, but I'm doubtful I can get my Rift S working on there. πŸ˜•

                                  Apparently there is an openxr driver for it, though, so I suppose I should at least give it a shot.

                                  There's absolutely no way I'm going to win11, though.

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                                  As someone who routinely used to sink thousands of hours into games, and by that I mean 3000 hrs. on R6-3, 2500 hrs. on Squad and so on, the predatory practices of Microsoft, Steam and game developers have just turned me off gaming completely.

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                                    Not the fault of Linux, but these are still the "problem" OP asked about regarding switching to Linux.

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                                    It is, but i wanted to contextualize it for them and others reading. People sometimes have some idea that it would be impossible to port due to some inhernat aspect to linux. Might be true for something that makes heavy windows API use, but for many others its just a business case. And I wanted emphasis that a bit

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                                      Go to https://www.goeuropean.org/#products-list and try to enter the Adobe search word. πŸ™‚ Could it be an alternative for you?

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                                      Sadly nothing for Adobe InDesign, which is like 2/3 of my workflow 😞 (Also I don't see an option to filter to Linux programs on that site.)

                                      I spent half hour searching on alternativeto.net just now, but for the 3 Adobe programs I use (InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop) all FLOSS Linux options seem to be lacking essential features. Based on comments, even in more popular alternatives, features like PDF exporting or CMYK colour handling require workarounds or additional external programs.

                                      (Re. searching only for FLOSS: I'm not opposed to paying for software, but when I enabled that option on alternativeto.net, a lot of results were subscription-based, which I do strongly oppose πŸ˜• )

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                                        Hot take from an IT guy: save your important data, make a plain vanilla W11 boot USB (nothing fancy, no Rufus tricks), wipe your hard drive to zeroes, and install W11 like normal. I've reimaged a ton of older PCs and literally never seen it not work. My 10 year old Optiplex, supposedly ineligible for W11, runs W11 just fine.

                                        Microsoft might someday break it, sure. That's not new. Microsoft products were always, in practice, available to us at Microsoft's pleasure. This is the same company that allows massgrave to exist on git because they'd rather we pirate MS Office than allow LibreOffice any oxygen. We'll probably be fine.

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                                        Also IT guy. Hot take indeed. I've done this but won't support this.
                                        I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you've done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                                        I'm using this opportunity to expand Linux market share.

                                        Most people only use browser.
                                        People that ask me about Windows 10 eol get pushed towards Linux.

                                        Only if they need stuff that won't work on Linux or they really really want Windows to use Chrome or Firefox on for some reason I'll recommend complying with Microsoft's hubris.

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                                          Also IT guy. Hot take indeed. I've done this but won't support this.
                                          I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you've done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                                          I'm using this opportunity to expand Linux market share.

                                          Most people only use browser.
                                          People that ask me about Windows 10 eol get pushed towards Linux.

                                          Only if they need stuff that won't work on Linux or they really really want Windows to use Chrome or Firefox on for some reason I'll recommend complying with Microsoft's hubris.

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                                          I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you’ve done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                                          Well, yeah. That's life as an admin under the best circumstances. There's a running list of Windows ticking time bombs over on r/sysadmin. There are lots of good reasons to ditch Windows, but I wouldn't say the risk of MS shutting down technically unsupported hardware is one of them (because I don't agree it's a substantial risk).

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