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'Every word has come back to haunt me': China cracks down on women who write gay erotica

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  • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

    This article has nothing to do with the United States and did not need a US centric comment.

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    This article serves as a warning against authoritarianism and should be discussed in every context.

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    • buelldozer@lemmy.todayB [email protected]

      This article has nothing to do with the United States and did not need a US centric comment.

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      This will happen in your country as well if you are not aware of it's typical process and spread.

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      • Q [email protected]

        But .ml communities promise meChina has mote free speech than the West! How is this possible?

        /s

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        It's really weird and kinda reddit-like to see a human rights violation and twist the story to be about some online community.

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          "The Chinese government wants to promote traditional family values and liking danmei novels is seen as a factor in making women less willing to have children," Dr Ge explains.

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          Man, it's wild to see them go from one-child to this in a single generation.

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          • supervisor194@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            Man, it's wild to see them go from one-child to this in a single generation.

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            The machine needs meat

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            • supervisor194@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              Man, it's wild to see them go from one-child to this in a single generation.

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              Overcorrection in policy is not uncommon in authoritarian regimes. I'd imagine because policy carries the threat of imprisonment, not just guidance.

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                "The Chinese government wants to promote traditional family values and liking danmei novels is seen as a factor in making women less willing to have children," Dr Ge explains.

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                I generally want to have sex with my husband after reading erotica. You know, because it’s arousing. How did this not occur to them?

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                  It's really weird and kinda reddit-like to see a human rights violation and twist the story to be about some online community.

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                  This isn’t about some online community as much as it is a comment on tankies.

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                    I generally want to have sex with my husband after reading erotica. You know, because it’s arousing. How did this not occur to them?

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                    How many straight men do you know who have a sound grasp on women’s sexuality?

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                      "I've been warned not to talk about it," the woman wrote, before revealing snippets of the day she says she was arrested for publishing gay erotica.

                      "I'll never forget it - being escorted to the car in full view, enduring the humiliation of stripping naked for examination in front of strangers, putting on a vest for photos, sitting in the chair, shaking with fear, my heart pounding."

                      The handle, Pingping Anan Yongfu, is among at least 8 in recent months which have shared accounts on Chinese social media platform Weibo of being arrested for publishing gay erotic fiction. As authors recounted their experiences, dozens of lawyers offered pro bono help.

                      At least 30 writers, nearly all of them women in their 20s, have been arrested across the country since February, a lawyer defending one told the BBC. Many are out on bail or awaiting trial, but some are still in custody. Another lawyer told the BBC that many more contributors were summoned for questioning.

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                      Weird. I was told state atheism was the hallmark of human rights.

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                        But .ml communities promise meChina has mote free speech than the West! How is this possible?

                        /s

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                        Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic. I wouldn't make it a point of purity testing. People in the past did things according to their time (not saying its justified).

                        The .ml crew has enought to criticize today. Big part them being a different flavor of impiralism

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                        • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                          Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic. I wouldn't make it a point of purity testing. People in the past did things according to their time (not saying its justified).

                          The .ml crew has enought to criticize today. Big part them being a different flavor of impiralism

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                          Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic

                          Which other word did he sound like?

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                          • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                            Che Guevara, from Desalinas PFP, was also rather homophonic. I wouldn't make it a point of purity testing. People in the past did things according to their time (not saying its justified).

                            The .ml crew has enought to criticize today. Big part them being a different flavor of impiralism

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                            This isn’t a purity test. This is me making fun of the tankies on .ml

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                              I know nothing about Chinese child care, but reading that the government wishes for more child rearing, might it be that there are other systemic problems like no access to child care facilities, a culture that doesn't value women and people exhausted by long work days? I might have read that this is part of the root cause in korea.
                              But sure, some gay novels might also be the reason for significant numbers.
                              Overall the Chinese are somewhat known for pragmatic approaches, why chasing illusions in this case? The total number of readers and writers can't be that huge can't it?

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                              This reflects a typical right wing approach to "increasing birthrates": Reinforcing """"traditional family values"""", vilifying defiance of gender norms and addressing anything but the root cause.

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                                But .ml communities promise meChina has mote free speech than the West! How is this possible?

                                /s

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                                You don’t even have to be charged with anything before ICE grabs you off the street and throws you in a van in the US…

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                                  "I've been warned not to talk about it," the woman wrote, before revealing snippets of the day she says she was arrested for publishing gay erotica.

                                  "I'll never forget it - being escorted to the car in full view, enduring the humiliation of stripping naked for examination in front of strangers, putting on a vest for photos, sitting in the chair, shaking with fear, my heart pounding."

                                  The handle, Pingping Anan Yongfu, is among at least 8 in recent months which have shared accounts on Chinese social media platform Weibo of being arrested for publishing gay erotic fiction. As authors recounted their experiences, dozens of lawyers offered pro bono help.

                                  At least 30 writers, nearly all of them women in their 20s, have been arrested across the country since February, a lawyer defending one told the BBC. Many are out on bail or awaiting trial, but some are still in custody. Another lawyer told the BBC that many more contributors were summoned for questioning.

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                                  bbc

                                  yeah, probably not.

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                                    You don’t even have to be charged with anything before ICE grabs you off the street and throws you in a van in the US…

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                                    Which is true for China as well

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                                    • Q [email protected]

                                      But .ml communities promise meChina has mote free speech than the West! How is this possible?

                                      /s

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                                      Clearly, the BBC made it all up. Because it contradicts them. /s

                                      Literally the newest top-level comment right now.

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                                      • zoomboingding@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                                        These authors are being accused of breaking China's pornography law for "producing and distributing obscene material". Writers who earn a profit could be jailed for more than 10 years.

                                        The law targets "explicit descriptions of gay sex or other sexual perversions".

                                        Jesus I thought there might have been some bullshit pretense, but apparently it's just straight-up illegal there.

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                                        China is not the West, haha. There's a reason we're suspicious of them.

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                                          You don’t even have to be charged with anything before ICE grabs you off the street and throws you in a van in the US…

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                                          Yes it's fucking horrible, I have the misfortune of living in the US but the same goes for China, North Korea, Russia and I could go on.

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