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  • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
    Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
    Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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    https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/rhel/

    You should be able to add the repo and install the packages anyway. If it doesn't work, give a description of the behavior including errors or logs.

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      https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/rhel/

      You should be able to add the repo and install the packages anyway. If it doesn't work, give a description of the behavior including errors or logs.

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      Yes, I have already read that and it clearly says:

      To install Docker Engine, you need a maintained version of one of the following RHEL versions:
      
      RHEL 8
      RHEL 9
      
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      • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
        Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
        Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

        S This user is from outside of this forum
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        Oh, I see that RHEL has officially dropped docker support. You can try installing from binaries, but you are definitely striking out on your own here.

        I don't mean to rake you over the coals here, but what is the reasoning for sticking with RHEL for this project? If you are attempting to use it in an paid enterprise situation, you are better off sticking with items on the compatibility list. If you run into issues with other supported services, the first piece of advice will be to remove docker. Since your are not getting support for docker, I would advise running it from a supported OS.

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          Oh, I see that RHEL has officially dropped docker support. You can try installing from binaries, but you are definitely striking out on your own here.

          I don't mean to rake you over the coals here, but what is the reasoning for sticking with RHEL for this project? If you are attempting to use it in an paid enterprise situation, you are better off sticking with items on the compatibility list. If you run into issues with other supported services, the first piece of advice will be to remove docker. Since your are not getting support for docker, I would advise running it from a supported OS.

          sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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          Well, as I am running my personal server for years, I wanted to test/understand more enterprise solutions except Debian/Ubuntu and especially solutions with SELinux.
          In the end if I face major issues I will setup Nextcloud to a VM. Thank you for your response

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          • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            Yes, I have already read that and it clearly says:

            To install Docker Engine, you need a maintained version of one of the following RHEL versions:
            
            RHEL 8
            RHEL 9
            
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            I guess what they're saying is, even though it's "not supported" officially, you can still try and there's good chances it'll work anyway. If you need or prefer to stick to a supported configuration, it seems your options are either to switch to podman and figure out nextcloud, or switch away from RHEL.

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            • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
              Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
              Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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              Reading the Docs, it seems like PodMan is the replacement for docker. You could try containerd/nerdctl, but podman is likely the best way for you. RHEL10 docs even say it supports the older docker config options

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              • T [email protected]

                Reading the Docs, it seems like PodMan is the replacement for docker. You could try containerd/nerdctl, but podman is likely the best way for you. RHEL10 docs even say it supports the older docker config options

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                BUT THATS NOT WHAT I LIKE TO UUUSSSEEEEE WAAAAHHHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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                  BUT THATS NOT WHAT I LIKE TO UUUSSSEEEEE WAAAAHHHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

                  D This user is from outside of this forum
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                  What the fuck is your problem? πŸ˜„

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                  • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                    As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
                    Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
                    Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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                    hasn't been available since like 8. right?

                    IBM bought redhat, negotiations with docker bottomed out because docker wouldn't appease IBM execs, and IBM used their competitor podman. IBM yanked docker out of all packages almost overnight.

                    yet another reason why I left redhat. any company that uses their power for the sake of using it makes running business on their platform hard, but that's kind of IBM's whole schtick.

                    edit: why the downvotes? this is literally what happened. docker said they couldn't delivered rootless when IBM wanted it because they had other priorities. IBM said fuck you we're dropping support for podman. docker said ok, and now we have a podman still masquerading like a drop in replacement.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      Reading the Docs, it seems like PodMan is the replacement for docker. You could try containerd/nerdctl, but podman is likely the best way for you. RHEL10 docs even say it supports the older docker config options

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                      podman is not a drop-in for docker.

                      they lie and anyone saying otherwise is lying too.

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                        I guess what they're saying is, even though it's "not supported" officially, you can still try and there's good chances it'll work anyway. If you need or prefer to stick to a supported configuration, it seems your options are either to switch to podman and figure out nextcloud, or switch away from RHEL.

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                        It won't work since there's no RHEL10 repo. You can however use CentOS (Stream) 10 repo, I use it that way and it works!

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                          Just use podman, easy migration from docker.

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                          It's definitely not an easy migration in my experience, because they run rootless and they cannot auto-start without making a system service for every stack, there is a lot that needs to change in a compose stack, especially with file permissions for shared mounts.

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                            podman is not a drop-in for docker.

                            they lie and anyone saying otherwise is lying too.

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                            It depends on what you are trying to do. Podman has a different design but it has pretty solid compatibility with docker. It also supports OCI containers so from the applications perspective it looks the same.

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                              What the fuck is your problem? πŸ˜„

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                              They are just another person

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                              • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                Well, as I am running my personal server for years, I wanted to test/understand more enterprise solutions except Debian/Ubuntu and especially solutions with SELinux.
                                In the end if I face major issues I will setup Nextcloud to a VM. Thank you for your response

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                                SElinux will run on any system with Linux

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                                • mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

                                  It's definitely not an easy migration in my experience, because they run rootless and they cannot auto-start without making a system service for every stack, there is a lot that needs to change in a compose stack, especially with file permissions for shared mounts.

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                                  Agreed. Setting up an NFS share is a mess with Podman

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