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Are the Sentinelese still alive?

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  • R [email protected]

    Maybe we should send someone to check. A Missionary or something.

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    The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.

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      The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.

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      woooosh

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      • Y [email protected]

        Your argument absolutely has merit. However the opposite is that there might be people there who are aware there's maybe way more to their small world, and want nothing more than to see it.

        I care more about the latter, but mainly because that's how I would think. If we found out there's an alien superhighway passing over earth hidden from us, and they're keeping us "protected" and not allowing contact, I'd be very pissed off. I immediately would want to leave, meet the aliens, learn their ways and knowledge, etc...

        Just sayin', it can go both ways. Ya never know if you don't talk to them.

        Also, it seems kind of morbid and archaic in a way, keeping them protected. Not like a zoo by any means, but still. If we knew for certain they all wanted to be left alone, that'd be better.

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        #27

        "I thought there'd be so much more to having sex with her, so I just decided to do it. Can't you see my good intentions?"

        Alternatively:

        "My need to know what it's like is more important than respecting her bodily autonomy."

        /s for abject morons

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        • W [email protected]

          I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.

          Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.

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          I think we need to give them unrestricted internet access and a porsche

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          • R [email protected]

            Maybe we should send someone to check. A Missionary or something.

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            Tell 'em to deliver some instant noodles. Bitches love instant noodles.

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              It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.

              Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.

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              I find it infinitely adorable (not in the condescending way) that you thought about them and want to know if they're ok. That's awesome. ❤

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                I think we need to give them unrestricted internet access and a porsche

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                I mean....don't you think there is some teen on that Island who would love access to pornhub and a THC Vape pen? Meanwhile all the people on social media rant and rave!!! Just leave them alone!!!! In their air conditioned house typing on a $1000 smartphone

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                • H [email protected]

                  It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.

                  Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.

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                  Idk, let's assume they are and not check

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                  • H [email protected]

                    It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.

                    Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.

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                    #33

                    Why can’t we just leave the Sentinelese alone? Stop disturbing them and let them live their lives? is that really so hard?

                    They’ve also made it clear they don’t want our help anyway.

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                      I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.

                      Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.

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                      It sucks. So does living off what you can hunt and fish in a tundra, but there are Alaskan people for whom that's a significant portion of their lifestyle. So does chasing the buffalo and warring with your neighbors in the great plains, yet the Lakota fought devastating wars for their right to live that way. So does living deep in the Amazon, yet some people there know our world exists and choose not to join it. And so did everything that happened to the people of the North American east coast after they whethered an apocalyptic epidemic then helped out some strange looking people who showed up clearly unprepared for the brutal weather awaiting them.

                      We, the people of the globalized world have a responsibility to respect uncontacted people's right to remain as such, just as we must respect the right of indigenous people to choose whether or not and to what degree they live their traditional lifestyles. We've failed at this too many times.

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                      • Y [email protected]

                        Your argument absolutely has merit. However the opposite is that there might be people there who are aware there's maybe way more to their small world, and want nothing more than to see it.

                        I care more about the latter, but mainly because that's how I would think. If we found out there's an alien superhighway passing over earth hidden from us, and they're keeping us "protected" and not allowing contact, I'd be very pissed off. I immediately would want to leave, meet the aliens, learn their ways and knowledge, etc...

                        Just sayin', it can go both ways. Ya never know if you don't talk to them.

                        Also, it seems kind of morbid and archaic in a way, keeping them protected. Not like a zoo by any means, but still. If we knew for certain they all wanted to be left alone, that'd be better.

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                        They shoot at attempts at contact. They know we're here. They have boats.

                        It's more like if an alien civilization had an outpost on Mars and made a point to not come to earth or to send messages in our used frequency bands after we shot down all communication satellites and probes they sent. Just showing up would be hard, but if we wanted to join their world we could signal desires to make contact.

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                          Idk, let's assume they are and not check

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                          They thought about that, then they wondered how they could introduce them to Christianity and exploit them for capitalism.

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                          • L [email protected]

                            Tell 'em to deliver some instant noodles. Bitches love instant noodles.

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                            "... Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smart arse!" — Stuart Mackenzie

                            That'll learn 'em.

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                              The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.

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                              Oh, you mean religion? Yeah, that motherfucker's all but impossible to remove from the host brainstems without killing them, but still. Just think of the children they brainwash and worse. It's worth the risk to excise that rapeworm from society completely. 🤌🏼

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                              • H [email protected]

                                It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.

                                Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.

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                                i hope they're okay too! but maybe it's best to check up on them in a way that doesn't bother them. they deserve to be at peace

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                                  There were 200? I understand that is exactly the lowest genetic pool limit for avoiding unsustainable inbreeding. They are likely dying off, if not already gone.

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                                  Not totally correct, the 200 number does assume that you have a mix of genetics and the average numbers of genetic diseases.
                                  There are models that show that populations that have been isolated long enough to basically "outlive/outgrow" most genetic diseases in their population they need lower numbers (which has been the case for some indigenous communities in Australia, Papua and is likely the case for some in the Amazonas - and the Sentinelese).

                                  We don't know if that is the case,but it might be. We simply don't know.

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                                    They pretty famously kill people who come ashore and try to make contact. They don't engage with people who are stranded other than to leave them food (according to one account of shipwrecked sailors, and I don't have the article).

                                    These people had a rough go the first contact they had, they haven't been receptive since.

                                    Just leave them the fuck alone.

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                                    the last who was killed, tried to proselytze them to christianity. yea because the first contact involve kidnapping thier children and giving them diseases. so the INDIAN government will not pursue any charges if the adamans kill invaders.

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                                      The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.

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                                      they dealt with the crazy missionairy already

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                                      • W [email protected]

                                        There are dozens of islands in that chain and it is protected water - no one is allowed to go there without explicit permission from the Indian government. The idea is they want to be left alone. They have wanted to be left alone but the fucking British couldn't take no for an answer and constantly raped, abducted and murdered them with guns and disease for decades. Their population cratered because of the disease and now they are a tiny fraction of what they were. Just let them be. Our world has too many problems and if they can be happy living in makeshift huts with no cellphones then that's the best humanity can get.

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                                        the fucking British couldn’t take no for an answer and constantly raped, abducted and murdered them with guns and disease for decades

                                        In our defence, they might have had some new spices for us to discover and not use!

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                                        • midtsveen@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

                                          Why can’t we just leave the Sentinelese alone? Stop disturbing them and let them live their lives? is that really so hard?

                                          They’ve also made it clear they don’t want our help anyway.

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                                          If they're all gone, all the expensive protection measures are not necessary anymore, so it's a very pragmatic question.

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