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    cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065

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      Relevant to !selfhosted because one of the projects getting funding cut is Let's Encrypt.

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        Relevant to !selfhosted because one of the projects getting funding cut is Let's Encrypt.

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        I'm gonna have to donate then.

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          Relevant to !selfhosted because one of the projects getting funding cut is Let's Encrypt.

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          It’s okay, Let’s Encrypt only provides SSL certs for… 63.7% of the market?

          Okay okay, that is a lot. But what does a CA need funding for anyway? It doesn’t take much bandwidth to send out new certs.

          The only thing that could be expensive is if they had to rapidly invalidate thousands of certs to protect the security of the entire internet.

          But haha, that’s a pretty outlandish scenario that would never happen.

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            cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065

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            Why would he fund communism in the first place? (/s before you try to hit me with that downvote button).

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              Im not saying Zuck is good or a savior of choice, but now would be a good time for facebook investors to pressure him to eat that difference.

              Not that he should, but hes all in on Open Source*

              *Massive stipulations apply.

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                Why would he fund communism in the first place? (/s before you try to hit me with that downvote button).

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                Sorry, downvoted anyway.

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                  cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065

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                  Let's put some numbers on all of this. The OTF's total budget slowly raised from ~$10M in 2019 to a grand total of $40M in 2023, almost half of all allocated funds by Congress to promote Internet freedom globally.

                  That's an incredibly tiny amount of money.

                  More recently, Congress had directed that - for both the fiscal years of 2024 and 2025 - the funding should be "not less than $43,500,000", which guaranteed an income stream for 2025 too.

                  Looks like some spicy legal action will suck up a lot of those cuts...

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                    I'm gonna have to donate then.

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                    Same. I've been thinking about who to donate to this year, and it looks like they're making the cut. I'll probably also throw some money at my Lemmy instance and a handful of projects I use, including Tor, because apparently they got caught in the dragnet too.

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                      Let's put some numbers on all of this. The OTF's total budget slowly raised from ~$10M in 2019 to a grand total of $40M in 2023, almost half of all allocated funds by Congress to promote Internet freedom globally.

                      That's an incredibly tiny amount of money.

                      More recently, Congress had directed that - for both the fiscal years of 2024 and 2025 - the funding should be "not less than $43,500,000", which guaranteed an income stream for 2025 too.

                      Looks like some spicy legal action will suck up a lot of those cuts...

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                      I also like to measure in jetwing money ...
                      This is like half a jetwing.

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                        I also like to measure in jetwing money ...
                        This is like half a jetwing.

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                        I like to estimate by cost per congressperson, which is ~$7.5M/year. So the whole of OTF is about 3 congresspeople (and their staff), that sounds fair.

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                          cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065

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                          That 4 miles long military parade for his 79th birthday doesn't pay by itself, unfortunately 😢

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                            I like to estimate by cost per congressperson, which is ~$7.5M/year. So the whole of OTF is about 3 congresspeople (and their staff), that sounds fair.

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                            is that their taxpayer funded salary? because you can buy one much much cheaper.

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                              is that their taxpayer funded salary? because you can buy one much much cheaper.

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                              No, current salary for all representatives outside of a handful of leadership positions is $174,000. This is the cumulative cost for everything else (staff, expenses, etc).

                              I personally think $174k is a bit low for salary, especially given the COL for the area and the importance of the role. I'd like to see that increase, while also increasing our expectations from our reps (i.e. jail time for bought politicians).

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                                cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065

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                                I know it's only vaguely related, since they're not US-funded, but at some point I think it would be hilarious (in a particularly poignant way) if the Lemmy developers' funding got cut off by the process of the explicitly rabid governments they are fans of finally succeeding at destabilizing the friendly Western countries where they live to the point that NLNet wasn't funded anymore. As I understand it, NLNet is already facing some headwinds because the friendly liberal elements in EU politics are getting replaced by the same kind of "fuck everyone just give money to rich people and also anyone who disagrees with me dies" elements that Russia likes to give money and social-media-shilling campaigns to support.

                                Surely Russia and China will jump to the front and fund basic infrastructure work for the good of everyone, if that happened. They could count on it happening, instead of having to get jobs.

                                Surely.

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                                  Relevant to !selfhosted because one of the projects getting funding cut is Let's Encrypt.

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                                  Every day just gets worse doesn't it.

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                                    cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065

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                                    The problem is, European leaders are sacks of shit too. They don't care either.

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                                      Same. I've been thinking about who to donate to this year, and it looks like they're making the cut. I'll probably also throw some money at my Lemmy instance and a handful of projects I use, including Tor, because apparently they got caught in the dragnet too.

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                                      Which other projects caught your attention? I was going to donate to Graphene, EFF and some TOR operators

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                                        Which other projects caught your attention? I was going to donate to Graphene, EFF and some TOR operators

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                                        Far more than I can reasonably support:

                                        • self hosted things I use - caddy, the document foundation, Jellyfin, Forgejo, etc
                                        • Android apps - F-Droid, NewPipe, Signal, RethinkDNS, etc
                                        • desktop apps - flatpak, For, Godot, etc
                                        • infrastructure stuff - let's encrypt, openssh, Linux distros (mine doesn't accept donations unfortunately), etc

                                        But the short list for now is:

                                        • Let's Encrypt
                                        • Signal
                                        • F-Droid

                                        And I'll probably run a Tor relay or something as well.

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                                          cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/28204065

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                                          What languages and patterns will be considered woke?

                                          For sure memory safety and dependent types. C++ will probably be shoved down our throats.

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