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Too bad we can't have good public transportation

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    Not just trains but all transportation services and systems is severely lacking in this country. Along with crumbling infrastructure and terrible build quality of cars and trucks and you got a recipe for disaster. But no one will care cuz Merica!

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    yeah it's so funny when people think the US has good car infrastructure, the truth is that the US just generally fucking sucks

    yeah sure there's a lot of interstate highways which i guess you can consider good, but most people aren't using them for very large distances, most people are driving to and from work every day and that part is so hilariously miserable that i don't think people in the rest of the world truly believe it's a real thing that happens..

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      I am as American as Pancetta.
      It is just the glorification of China that is rubbing me the wrong way.

      Their buildings are collapsing. Yes, it is built fast, cheap and looks nice.
      And then it fails.

      And the Chinese peope themselves. They suffer.

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      when you're used to propaganda that says china is awful, seeing people say "china is pretty okay actually" looks like glorification.

      No one is saying china is amazing, they're saying china is not actively stabbing themselves in the stomach. China is doing the blitheringly obvious things a country like that should be doing, things that most other countries can't be arsed to do because the people in power benefit from the status quo of things being shit.

      They're not perfect, things go over budget and things get built shittily by bad companies, just like what happens in every other country on earth.

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        yeah it's so funny when people think the US has good car infrastructure, the truth is that the US just generally fucking sucks

        yeah sure there's a lot of interstate highways which i guess you can consider good, but most people aren't using them for very large distances, most people are driving to and from work every day and that part is so hilariously miserable that i don't think people in the rest of the world truly believe it's a real thing that happens..

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        Agreed! I live in a very rural part of the country and the conditions of the roads and highways are laughable.

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          Agreed! I live in a very rural part of the country and the conditions of the roads and highways are laughable.

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          not just that, but the design itself is often actively counterproductive, and the fact that driving is often the only way to get around means the roads are forced to handle an insane amount of traffic.

          i like to say that the nordics are an example of actual car-centric design: the roads are simple and efficient and the other modes of transport are good enough, which means there aren't thousands and thousands of incompetent and unwilling drivers on the roads.

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            yhea, that's not nearly as bad as paying taxes to a pedophile to finance a death camp for brown people.

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            Please think about that when you're in a nice Chinese re-education camp

            You just gotta love people like you who can't fathom simple ideas like "both are really really bad"

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              I know enough that it wasn't so much lobbying as it was advertising to the to the US citizens that made cars more popular. Ford figured out how to make it affordable then a bunch of companies that stood to make money on cars bought up streetcars and shut them down in favor of busses, but that doesn't actually answer the demise of long distance rail.

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              The US was built on steam trains going literally everywhere

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                The US was built on steam trains going literally everywhere

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                That's kind of the problem though. They're not everywhere now. There's a whole lot of places that are nowhere near a train line.

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                  This isn't even about government styles. This is just investing in infrastructure vs not doing that.

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                    Congratulations, you figured out that China is a large country! It would be ridiculous to think that a country with 1.4 billion people would have less people dieing in traffic than a country with a smaller population.

                    If you just go by absolute numbers, a large country will have more of absolutely everything than a small country.

                    Now go back to your link and sort by "Je 100.000 Einwohner" and see how that changes the list.

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                    But you understand that "je Einwohner" means shit with that density of cars?
                    cant have a car crash when you ride a donkey.
                    per car would make much more sense but that's the least the regime would care about which is why say 50k ppl died. i guess from how much their culture sucks it is 500k per year. 🙂

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                      But you understand that "je Einwohner" means shit with that density of cars?
                      cant have a car crash when you ride a donkey.
                      per car would make much more sense but that's the least the regime would care about which is why say 50k ppl died. i guess from how much their culture sucks it is 500k per year. 🙂

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                      If only that metric was included in the link above. Well, luckily it is. And guess what: When sorting by "je 100 000 motorisierte Fahrzeuge" ("per 100 000 motorized vehicles"), China ranks even much better.

                      Sorting by per inhabitants puts China as the 68th worst country, so 67 countries are worse. Sorting by per motorized vehicels puts China as 115th worst, so 114 countries are worse.

                      When looking at "per motorized vehicles" China is on par with Lettland.

                      If only there was a way to follow the link and look at actual numbers before spouting made-up misinformation.

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                        If only that metric was included in the link above. Well, luckily it is. And guess what: When sorting by "je 100 000 motorisierte Fahrzeuge" ("per 100 000 motorized vehicles"), China ranks even much better.

                        Sorting by per inhabitants puts China as the 68th worst country, so 67 countries are worse. Sorting by per motorized vehicels puts China as 115th worst, so 114 countries are worse.

                        When looking at "per motorized vehicles" China is on par with Lettland.

                        If only there was a way to follow the link and look at actual numbers before spouting made-up misinformation.

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                        this misinformation you are talking about it what i am talking about! yeah. finally.
                        ofcourse the numbers are MUCH higher. coercion or killing of others is legit for motorists and the governments that need the industry.

                        i am sure china is always and will always be among the worst of the worst.
                        one of the oldest countries and still tourture,regime government and imbecile citizens.

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                          this misinformation you are talking about it what i am talking about! yeah. finally.
                          ofcourse the numbers are MUCH higher. coercion or killing of others is legit for motorists and the governments that need the industry.

                          i am sure china is always and will always be among the worst of the worst.
                          one of the oldest countries and still tourture,regime government and imbecile citizens.

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                          You really have trouble understanding numbers, right?

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                            You really have trouble understanding numbers, right?

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                            LOL.

                            If it was only about competence, I think throwing dice might yield better results than what many politicians are doing.

                            that you and nUmbErS?
                            that is called being disconnected with the world. maybe 4chan convinced you to love pervy chinese regime but "AFK" is where those cars actually drive. should check it out some time.

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                              LOL.

                              If it was only about competence, I think throwing dice might yield better results than what many politicians are doing.

                              that you and nUmbErS?
                              that is called being disconnected with the world. maybe 4chan convinced you to love pervy chinese regime but "AFK" is where those cars actually drive. should check it out some time.

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                              You are what appens if someone is too dumb to understand anything but extremes. Being able to understand nuance requires at least the mental level of a 10yo.

                              It is an quite extraordinary feat to be so dumb that you think a country has to be either terrible at everything or great at everything and anyone who says a country is not terrible at everything must be totally in love with everything that happens in that country.

                              Literally kindergarden level of argumentation.

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