What’s an unspoken rule that absolutely everyone should know, but most people clearly don’t?
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I really can't more strongly disagree with this take.
Zipper merging is to interleave two lanes of traffic when there's one lane of traffic available ahead.
It DOES NOT matter if it's done with 3 feet to merge or 300 feet to merge. There's no efficiency gain.
What does matter is some assholes trying to merge at speed at the last possible second.
The zipper point should not be the point where there's NO ROOM to merge SAFELY without EVERYONE going 3 miles per hour.
The handful of times I've seen a zipper merge actually start to work, someone rushes down to the end of the line where the problem is, nearly causes a second accident trying to get over, and then everything starts moving at a crawl again.
You don't need to zipper merge at the "physical barrier" causing the zipper merge to be necessary.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It DOES NOT matter if it’s done with 3 feet to merge or 300 feet to merge. There’s no efficiency gain.
Merging early leaves unused road. Shoving the cars into fewer lanes makes the traffic jam longer and makes it impact more interesections far behind the actual hangup. If you can merge early without slowing down, sure go for it. I'm mostly talking about the scenarios where it's already slowed to a crawl and people feel like they have to merge early to not be seen as "cutting in line."
Edit, also to add, if everyone merges early even at speed, eventually, the car density in the reduced lanes will reach a point where people naturally slow down and you have bumper to bumper traffic.
I suggest Traffic by Tom Vanderbilt for more.
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Nah homie, I'm also tall. Airplanes are airplanes, book the exit row. Your right to travel comfortably ends with the right to the same for the people around you. If you want more room, pay for the exit row.
New rule: only six tall people allowed per flight.
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lol this and bad drivers are the most reposted shit on my cities subreddit. ALWAYS zipper merging and bad drivers.
It’s sad people don’t understand the concept of zipper merging because of their ME FIRST attitude
Minneapolis?
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Looks like it's time to test the waters of Lemmy. This one has generally gone over poorly on reddit every time it's come up, so let's find out how it does here:
What about people who have a high degree of difficulty getting around? A good friend of mine has a herniated disc and a bunch of neurological issues as a result of a car accident he was in, he walks with one of those rolling walkers at a very slow speed grunting and groaning the entire time, and that was at the best of times. He barely manages shopping by using those electric cart things, but with all the reaching and bending he has to do, by the time he got back out to the car he was sweating like crazy and in obvious pain, even with my help. The idea of expecting someone in that situation to endure another couple minutes of horrendous pain just to make someone else's life very slightly more convenient by bringing his cart back up to the store even from the handicapped parking spaces strikes me as absurd, but he can't always get help with his shopping so I know he has to sometimes.
I think rules, written or otherwise, should have exceptions to account for extreme circumstances like this, but a lot of online people just go 'No, if you don't bring your cart back you're a BAD PERSON no matter what!'.
I think rules, written or otherwise, should have exceptions to account for extreme circumstances like this, but a lot of online people just go ‘No, if you don’t bring your cart back you’re a BAD PERSON no matter what!’.
To treat any rule as immutable is an idealist junk perspective. Rules, like all ideas, need to be applied to a context, and I personally don't see the point in codifying every possible exception. Law officials, programmers and others can tell you how Sisyphean that task would be.
So yes, there are exceptions (obviously!). If you're putting your cart back and you injure your leg, you don't have to crawl on your arms just to put it back. But we can still generally say "people should put their cart back after shopping" and it's clear that we're generalizing.
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Don't be a dick.
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Here's a weird one:
Don't offer advice unless its something you have some experience with.
Googling someone's issues and giving them a boilerplate answer from the first thing you find isn't helpful and can actually be a hinderance more than anything.
Something I've learned to practice with friends. When people call me I try to make sure I ask "do you want advice or do you just want someone to listen?"
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Worked at a Starbucks in college that was open until midnight. One time there were a couple of girls hanging out and didn’t leave when 12 rolled around. We started doing our closing tasks, locked the doors, etc. and they still remained. Finally I was starting to mop the floor and one of them said to me, “Were you going to ask us to leave?” And I said, “We’re not allowed to.” They were so apologetic after that. Yeah whatever, just get the hell out.
So if you're not allowed to I assume you get paid overtime if you have to stay after hours because of this, not doing so would be illegal in most countries. Knowing that I would get some friends to come over, play some games chat and do whatever we would normally do until 3/4 AM every Friday, get to hang out with friends and get paid for it, win/win. If asked I would just say "well, my friends came over to see me, and I couldn't ask them to leave".
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If you're in a drive on the left or right side of the road country, that goes for bike and walking paths too. Eg in Australia, keep left on footpaths.
And for the love of god if you're on a shared bike/walking path, keep your dog/child on the same fucking side as you. Share the gd path.
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It DOES NOT matter if it’s done with 3 feet to merge or 300 feet to merge. There’s no efficiency gain.
Merging early leaves unused road. Shoving the cars into fewer lanes makes the traffic jam longer and makes it impact more interesections far behind the actual hangup. If you can merge early without slowing down, sure go for it. I'm mostly talking about the scenarios where it's already slowed to a crawl and people feel like they have to merge early to not be seen as "cutting in line."
Edit, also to add, if everyone merges early even at speed, eventually, the car density in the reduced lanes will reach a point where people naturally slow down and you have bumper to bumper traffic.
I suggest Traffic by Tom Vanderbilt for more.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]"Unused road" is ridiculous except in extremes. Unless people merge well over a mile back, 1 lane of traffic will make no difference. The only way "unused road" matters is for the people that haven't entered the traffic jam yet who are getting off before they reach it.
Very few people (from what I've seen) merge more than 30 car lengths out. 30 cars is not going to make a difference.
What does make a difference is the fact that we can't do a merge at speed because some people want to "zipper late." It's the zipper behavior that matters, the "at the very end" part never should've been added to that recommendation.
Looking at an actual research paper about this, the zipper merge demonstrated is not at the last possible point. A merge point forms ahead of that point and that's what should be used. The pictures from their study show the zipper occurring over a wide area with many of the zipped cars driving in the middle.
https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/35694
I don't know how studies like this have become the recommendations we have. They seem to me to miss critical bits.
Edit: based on my quick read, it's worth noting the study finds only minimal support for the zipper merge and only in contexts not involving trucks largely based on visual analysis from their video feed as the quantitative data was not statistically significant. We need better transparency on recommendations like this frankly and the research supporting them. We should be able to have an honest debate on the merits of the papers.
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The problem with zipper merges as this person describes them is a zipper merge is SUPPOSED TO get traffic back up to speed. However, when your take on the zipper merge is "up there where the wreck is at the last possible spot I can merge" there's no time for a human to safely merge at speed. So everything has to continue at a crawl.
So the people jumping out of their lane and "zipper merging" at the last second instead of 50 feet out or so end up making things worse for everyone.
The zipper does not and should not be at the point of the physical problem on the road. Just like you should not just drive to the end of the on ramp and at the last possible second merge into the lane on your left without paying attention.
That's what I said?
Merge early at speed, merge late during congestion -
I’m 6’6” and my knees push against the seat in front of me even when not reclined.
I have a right to be able to travel without you causing me discomfort, and that’s a bit stronger than you having the privilege of getting more comfortable.
If you are the kind of person who asserts this “right” when someone asks you not to, you’re kind of a dick.
What if I get back pain if I’m not able to recline? I think your discomfort takes the backseat to my back pain (no pun intended).
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Fight not, here, rest your head on my lap pillow. UwU
What if you fart? Will you warn me?
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Put your cart back when you're done shopping.
I'll leave this here: https://youtube.com/@cartnarcs
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In general, stay out of the ducking way.
Confirmed; if I see a duck approaching, I will step aside.
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You're not allowed to ask people to leave after closing? That's awful, what the hell!
Some companies, especially bigger ones, value customers far more than they do employees. Many of those have rules against doing anything that might be misconstrued as hostile, such as suggesting to a customer that their presence is no longer desirable (even if this is done completely justifiably and politely).
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I would add an asterisk there and say this should reflect the driving/roads convention used in the country. Where I live, the driver's seat is on the right side of a car and on escalators most people stand still on the left, letting the right side clear for walking.
To make matters more complicated i believe (but may be wrong) in Japan Tokyo and Osaka have opposite conventions. So it can even come down to the city level.
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So many of these are "Don't create obstacles or bottlenecks".
Return your cart, zipper merge, wait for people to get off before you get on, don't block doorways.
Clearly, the truest unspoken rule is "Get out of the way!"
If you need to have a conversation with someone, don't block the entire hallway to do it.
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Remember to be kind.
I'm one of a kind. Does that count?
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When waiting at a red light, cars are supposed to stay out of the pedestrian crosswalk
wrote on last edited by [email protected]EDIT: Comment below is a product of misunderstanding of the original statement. I thought it was about pedestrians.
To be fair, at a red light you are legally expected to not initiate the crossing. You can finish it freely at any pace even if the red is in.
But a polite thing to do is to not enter the crosswalk if you can't cross it before red turns on.
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No disembark! Only board.
