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What’s an unspoken rule that absolutely everyone should know, but most people clearly don’t?

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  • L [email protected]

    You say usually, but I've seen quite a few people (on the internet and off) who like to make blanket statements like 'Anyone who doesn't put the shopping cart back is a shit human being', so it frequently is what is being discussed, and those folks have to be reminded that the world is not as black and white as they'd like to imagine.

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    Nah man, language is messy and people are lazy. Language is messy meaning people generally don't get so detail oriented and pedantic when someone says an absolute that clearly has some exceptions. People are lazy meaning most people aren't going to care to hash out the specifics of the edge cases that don't fit the generic statement.

    Your test seems to be more about how pedantic everyone is, and god I hope Lemmy loses that to reddit...

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      You stand on the right side of an escalator/moving walkway. You walk on the left side.

      It doesn't matter if you have multiple people or luggage, the right is for standing, the left is for walking.

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      • H [email protected]

        Actually, in Hungary (at least when I was a kid) they thought us, pedestrians, to use the left side, although this was more important when there was no sidewalk. The reason is, drivers might not see pedestrians very well, especially at night, but pedestrians do have a higher chance to see cars, as cars are usually illuminated. The pedestrian is facing forward, so it's easy to see and react when a car is coming. But from behind? They'll pass on the right side of the road, so there should be plenty of clearance.

        And I was legit surprised when I moved to Germany, pedestrians here are using the right side.

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        I used to use same rule when riding bike in paved roads with no side walk.

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          Nah man, language is messy and people are lazy. Language is messy meaning people generally don't get so detail oriented and pedantic when someone says an absolute that clearly has some exceptions. People are lazy meaning most people aren't going to care to hash out the specifics of the edge cases that don't fit the generic statement.

          Your test seems to be more about how pedantic everyone is, and god I hope Lemmy loses that to reddit...

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          Yeah that was definitely a thing I saw a lot more on reddit than here re:'shit human being', so fair point, I'm with you in hoping that kind of thing doesn't come over here/goes away.

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            "The store is now closed, please EXIT THE FUCKING BUILDING!"

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              If he's putting it up on the curb he's doing the best for his situation and to me that's fine. The damage comes from people leaving them just laying around and then the wind picks up. I have been around the block a few times it's true but in my life I've saved at least 3 people's cars from getting dented by carts I saw flying through the parking lot because of wind.

              Does he ask for help? Even if it's not a normal thing at that store, a nice conversation with a store manager can go a long way in my experience. Maybe it's because I live in a neighborhood with a significant amount of older folks (at least that's what it looks like at the grocery store!) but I bet any grocery will do that if you ask.

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              Fair enough. Yeah fuck leaving it out in the middle of everything or where it can roll/be blown away. If my buddy who gets winded walking to the bathroom can manage it so can everyone else. Although I guess to be fair there are more likely to be curbs near the handicap parking than for most other people, though also they have working legs and cart corrals, so..

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                I highly doubt you have heard a significant number of people who would genuinely say "disabled people who don't put their carts back are shit people."

                The number of people who would unironically say that is such a small edge case that it's not necessary to talk about them when you say things like "everyone knows that disabilities result in different needs and moral responsibilities," just like it's not necessary to mention disability when you generalize and say "people who don't put their carts back are shit people."

                Edge cases don't have to be accounted for in every conversation, not everything is a court of law.

                This isn't really any more deep than "only a sith deals in absolutes"

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                Not a significant number, no, but also not zero. No the common refrain is as I said it, with the implication that anyone who doesn't for any reason is a shit human being, and Iono if you know this, but disabled people are part of 'anyone' too. My whole point is that they make blanket statements about a thing that annoys them without realizing that some of those carts are out there for some pretty good reasons actually.

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                  Zipper merging

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                  • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                    If you're boarding a train or bus let people exit first instead of squeezing your fat ass past everyone to get a good seat

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                    Same for elevators!

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                    • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU [email protected]

                      I also hate when people get angry you didn’t follow their advice. Sometimes their advice was horse shit to begin with anyway. Just because someone seeks advice doesn’t mean they’re obligated to follow it. At least in my case, thank God I didn’t.

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                      Or their advice might be fine in general, but doesn't apply to your specific situation.

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                        Actually, in Hungary (at least when I was a kid) they thought us, pedestrians, to use the left side, although this was more important when there was no sidewalk. The reason is, drivers might not see pedestrians very well, especially at night, but pedestrians do have a higher chance to see cars, as cars are usually illuminated. The pedestrian is facing forward, so it's easy to see and react when a car is coming. But from behind? They'll pass on the right side of the road, so there should be plenty of clearance.

                        And I was legit surprised when I moved to Germany, pedestrians here are using the right side.

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                        In my state in the US we were taught if you were on a bike you go with traffic because you are moving fast but if you are walking/running then go against traffic so you can move out of the way if needed.

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                          United States is different, cars and bicycles on the right side, pedestrians on the left side.

                          Thankfully my city isn't strict about that, as it makes damn near no sense to me, regarding the opposite side laws for people on foot.. 🤷

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                          Walking and running are like standing still compared to traffic. Going against traffic means you see it coming and can move aside if needed or wave your arms or something if they don't seem to see you.

                          Bikes and other fast wheeled devices go with traffic because they follow the same patterns for lanes and turning as vehicles like motorcycles or scooters.

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                            Uh... Khakis.

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                            Keep your fetishes to yourself!

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                            • L [email protected]

                              Equating not putting the shopping cart back with murder is a bit fucking hyperbolic. One of those ends the life of another person and the other very slightly inconveniences them at most. And I now I can't even take you seriously enough to read the rest of your admittedly-short post after a statement like that.

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                              Not every comparison is literal, and you focused on the wrong part.

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                                I’m 6’6” and my knees push against the seat in front of me even when not reclined.

                                I have a right to be able to travel without you causing me discomfort, and that’s a bit stronger than you having the privilege of getting more comfortable.

                                If you are the kind of person who asserts this “right” when someone asks you not to, you’re kind of a dick.

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                                I need to lean back slightly or I won't be able to walk straight when we land, so I'm gonna need to do that two inch recline.

                                The airlines are our enemy, not each other.

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                                  Actually, in Hungary (at least when I was a kid) they thought us, pedestrians, to use the left side, although this was more important when there was no sidewalk. The reason is, drivers might not see pedestrians very well, especially at night, but pedestrians do have a higher chance to see cars, as cars are usually illuminated. The pedestrian is facing forward, so it's easy to see and react when a car is coming. But from behind? They'll pass on the right side of the road, so there should be plenty of clearance.

                                  And I was legit surprised when I moved to Germany, pedestrians here are using the right side.

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                                  German here. I was taught the same thing, when walking on a country road. If there's a pavement, I walk wherever.

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                                    Not every comparison is literal, and you focused on the wrong part.

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                                    Maybe tuck the godawful analogies away til the end next time then? shrug

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                                      Worked at a Starbucks in college that was open until midnight. One time there were a couple of girls hanging out and didn’t leave when 12 rolled around. We started doing our closing tasks, locked the doors, etc. and they still remained. Finally I was starting to mop the floor and one of them said to me, “Were you going to ask us to leave?” And I said, “We’re not allowed to.” They were so apologetic after that. Yeah whatever, just get the hell out.

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                                      You're not allowed to ask people to leave after closing? That's awful, what the hell!

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                                        People exiting a building or vehicle get priority over people entering. Let people out before you go cram yourself in the way.

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                                          When waiting at a red light, cars are supposed to stay out of the pedestrian crosswalk

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