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  • noite_etion@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

    Waiting for the ISO 8601 & 9001 gang to show up and promote YYYY-MM-DD.

    Edit: That took seconds, a very punctual bunch.

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    #55

    ISO 8601/RFC-3339 (Unix Epoch also acceptable) gang reporting in.

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    • T [email protected]

      As a big ISO 8601 guy myself, I request explanation of this 9001 addition? Never heard of it till now and am optimistic

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      Seconded. Not coming up with much when trying to find out more about it.

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      • S [email protected]

        MM/DD/YY for me.

        Edit: I learned something new today.

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        #57

        Upvoted, because never blame someone who learned something new.

        YYYY-MM-DD is for Files

        DD.MM.YYYY is for writing a date down.

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        • K [email protected]

          Let's not forget that technically you have to pay for ISO8601, despite it being nearly useless as a standard because it allows several incompatible formats to coexist.

          Fucking wild.

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          #58

          While a fucking stupid concept, it's nice that this particular format has a monetary deterrent.

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          • innermeerkat@jlai.luI [email protected]
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            I'm the only one annoyed about DD/MM/YYYY not being a date, but a date "format"?

            Not only it's a recycled joke, it doesn't even make sense.

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              As a big ISO 8601 guy myself, I request explanation of this 9001 addition? Never heard of it till now and am optimistic

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              Quality Management Systems, unsure what it has to do with 8601, but guess the fanboy venn diagram overlaps

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              • K [email protected]

                RFC 3339 if you please. Let's be prescriptive.

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                #61

                Anyone help enlighten me about whatever this and unix epoch are getting at?
                Are these really more specific/better than iso 8601 and why specifically?

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                • I [email protected]

                  For computing or sorting purposes, YYYY-MM-DD is best. But in day to day writing a date, I prefer DD-MON-YYYY.

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                  #62

                  What if the day in question isn't a Monday?

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                  • innermeerkat@jlai.luI [email protected]
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                    #63

                    Perfect date: We stay in bed snuggling while watching furry movies, meme compilations, or playing video games.

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                    • beigeagenda@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                      I prefer the alphabetical date format DD-HH-MM-SS-mm-yy for maximum confusion

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                      #64

                      Were you mostly joking or is there a utility to this? Genuinely curious as someone that finds confusing things slightly more memorable in a really backwards way

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                      • S [email protected]

                        This fucknuts who thinks day should come before year, hah!
                        Give me YYYY-MM-DD, because dashes are better than slashes any day of the week.

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                        #65

                        This format is the best. Especially for digital file names, because sorting the files by filename also sorts them by date.

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                        • G [email protected]

                          This format is the best. Especially for digital file names, because sorting the files by filename also sorts them by date.

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                          A true professional. Have an upvote.

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                          • T [email protected]

                            Were you mostly joking or is there a utility to this? Genuinely curious as someone that finds confusing things slightly more memorable in a really backwards way

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                            #67

                            Yes I was joking, get a random timestamp in this format and you have no idea what it's referring to.

                            DD:HH:MM:SS:mm:yy is even better because it could be a MAC address.

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                              Immediate red flag, we all know that YYYY/MM/DD is the only acceptable perfect date

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                              • T [email protected]

                                Anyone help enlighten me about whatever this and unix epoch are getting at?
                                Are these really more specific/better than iso 8601 and why specifically?

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                                #69

                                Happily!

                                So, first epoch time. It's a pretty robust standard, covers many use cases, has few edge cases... but it's specifically for machine usage, since it's not human readable and it's not reversible into the past (pre-1970).

                                ISO 8601 (depending on the annum), by the text of the documentation, these are all valid dates:

                                • 2007-04-05T14:30
                                • 2007-04-05T12:30−02:00
                                • 2007-04-05T14:30Z
                                • 200704051430
                                • 07-04-05T14:30
                                • 2007-95T14:30

                                Etc.

                                RFC 3339 (& RFC 9557, it's newest modification) is actually a subset of ISO 8601 and is far more prescriptive. For example you must have a timezone designator. You must have a separator between the date and time. You must use a dash between date elements and a colon between time elements. You can easily add standardized subseconds.

                                • 2007-04-05T12:30−02:00
                                • 2007-04-05 14:30Z

                                This means that RFC 3339 is much easier to parse and use by both machines and humans.

                                This page (reddit, I know...) has a great summary, and so in the interest of knowledge and attribution I'll link it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ISO8601/comments/p572xy/rfc_3339_versus_iso_8601/

                                This website allows you to more directly compare the two interactively.
                                https://ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  Immediate red flag, we all know that YYYY/MM/DD is the only acceptable perfect date

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                                  I thought that was unix time /s

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                                    Immediate red flag, we all know that YYYY/MM/DD is the only acceptable perfect date

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                                    Preeeety sure it's stardate.

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                                    • N [email protected]

                                      Don't go with this psycho! He mixes European style order with US style punctuation.

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                                      #72

                                      Standard in Australia. And common in the UK (it's traditionally a dot, but slash is more common now).

                                      But I'm team ISO-8601 when there's a chance of an international audience. At least where locale information can't be used.

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                                        I see it now FML. Editing my comment.

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                                        #73

                                        In your defense, it's usually denoted MMM.

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          This fucknuts who thinks day should come before year, hah!
                                          Give me YYYY-MM-DD, because dashes are better than slashes any day of the week.

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                                          I prefer YYYY.MM.DD, because the dots look aesthetically pleasing when the date is being displayed within the vincity of a clock displaying the time digitally.

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