UK citizens say it is more important to support Ukraine than to maintain good relations with US, survey shows
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Only because the people allow it.
I know nobody can change that alone, but USA need to friggin get some graasroot movements going to get real democracy, and elect politicians that don't prioritize only the 1%.
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You are right, the problem is very much a widespread attitude in USA.
They need to modernize their democracy, and they need to modernize their interpretation and regulation of what free speech is.
The 2 main reasons USA is as fucked up as it is now, is that the 2 party system undermines democracy, and way too much misinformation is allowed.
You can't build democracy on lies.I really really hope Americans will wake up soon, and realize this.
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Yes, but it can't wait 4 years, because in 4 years Trump may have transformed USA government to a totalitarian regime.
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I can't believe we're betraying Ukraine for no reason.
Oh wait... Actually I can believe it, i knew it was going to happen, and I voted against it.
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I’m an American immigrant in Germany, and I’ve come to realize that most Americans are very naive about government. The US has been very successful in the short time it’s been around as a country, and I don’t think most Americans really realize that it won’t always be like that. At the same time, the education system has been gradually but thoroughly gutted.
I hope we can wake up, but I worry we might need to see for ourselves before we can actually learn. I just hope the rest of the world doesn’t indulge us so long that we take everyone else with us.
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I don’t think anyone has understood this, so let’s see :
Trump is continuing longstanding foreign policy.
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Agreed. I would rather the UK have fewer allies of a higher moral calibre than play sycophant to a fascist cabal of degenerates.
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The simple reality is that it is not possible to maintain good relations with the US. Donald Trump is an idiot and a fascist whose agenda is driven by his whims as much as anything else. Starmer could bend over backwards to appease His Orange Majesty on every issue and Trump would still fuck the UK just because.
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Absolutely USA as a country has been a huge success, and I think you are right, that people think that proves the model is good.
But there are many other factors that have helped USA become a success. A huge population with a unified language is one, massive agricultural potential is another. Lot's of natural resources, and oil to kick-start industrialization.
It will be hard to elevate public education much without social reforms. AFAIK USA spend more on public education than many European countries, but results are worse, maybe in part because of poverty.
It's way harder for Children that live in poverty to pay attention to school to the same degree that better off children can. That's been a well known fact for many decades, and USA is doing absolutely diddly about it. -
A heart breaking romance.
"Hey US, I think we should take a break. It's not me, it's you... I know you've been cheating on me with Putin"
Coming soon to a theater near you.
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As you say, probably a troll.
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Am UK citizen, can confirm.
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So education will be reformed and we'll be force to learn Russian and vote for one party/president only?
Uh, can anybody stop currents news from auto generating bullshit on a daily basis?
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It's not for no reason, it's to make Putin happier, maybe extort a bunch of mineral rights out of Ukraine. See, plenty of reason...
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You forgot about apathy. Even with a healthier plurality of political parties, the big thing is the majority of potential voters don't bother. Some because of being lazy, some because it is unreasonably hard for them to get time off of work/contend with suppression.
This administration also highlights that the president matters too much. You can't have even two parties interest honored when a singular man gets his way so much.
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hard for them to get time off of work/contend with suppression.
Part of having a working democracy, is that it's easy to vote. That means it's close to where you live, and that it can be done quickly. That you are automatically registered to vote is a given. Also that people in prisons can vote is a minimum requirement for a functioning democracy.
USA fails on so many counts, creating obstructions instead of facilitating voting, that many Americans don't even know what a good democracy looks and feels like.
There will always be some that are prevented or don't care, but that's not normally a big problem for good democracies.
If the election is non controversial, it's not as important, and if it is controversial, more people participate. Most functioning democracies have about 80% voter participation AFAIK. Here we usually in the high 80's. -
Sure, you're right about that. I should have said no good reason.
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I realized that my comment kind of sounds like I’m calling Americans dumb or uneducated generally, but I was thinking specifically about civics, history, and economics classes and I never mentioned that. Those courses are either missing from the curriculum or heavily biased to the point that I think it’s natural for people to have a poor understanding of fascism.
My parents both had masters degrees, and I grew up in a house where “communist” was a slur and “anarchist” was a synonym for chaotic. They weren’t stupid or uneducated, but they had been significantly propagandized. My dad fully thinks that leftists are fascist. Hell, I learned through high school that the US had never lost a war. My history classes never got past 1945, with the exceptions of the moon landing and the fall of the Berlin Wall.
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Removing them isn't enough. Over 77 million people saw his previous term, looked at him now, and said "Yep! I want more of that!" And the media being complicit doesn't help, either.
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I think the UK can use this as an opportunity to improve relations with the EU, or to at least get a trade partner in Ukraine and to take a chunk of Russian assets. You get to be a good guy, and get rich by confiscating Putin's coffers.
Seriously, send in troops, and maybe the navy if Turkey permits. Do what American't.
