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Amazon is changing what is written in books

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  • hossenfeffer@feddit.ukH [email protected]

    I mean it's not an easy question to answer is it? How is my ideological position that 'nigger' is not acceptable and removing it makes the book suitable for modern readers any different from someone else's ideological position that, e.g., 'transgender' is not acceptable and removing it makes whatever book suitable for modern readers?

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    Indeed, that's why i hate it that so many people here are raging about this while it's something both sides are doing...

    I get all the Trump & conservatives hate, but sometimes this community is raging over something that's just done by both sides... So being outraged about it is pretty hypocritical....

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    • hossenfeffer@feddit.ukH [email protected]

      I mean it's not an easy question to answer is it? How is my ideological position that 'nigger' is not acceptable and removing it makes the book suitable for modern readers any different from someone else's ideological position that, e.g., 'transgender' is not acceptable and removing it makes whatever book suitable for modern readers?

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      @Hossenfeffer @racemaniac n*r is deemed a slur *by the group it is used about*. "Transgender" is not. Changing references to be more inclusive/respectful of a group is very different to erasing the existence of a group entirely.

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      • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

        Sure, no platform will have everything. But for me personally, on YouTube Music, I’ve always been able to find what I was looking for. But I’m admittedly not what you’d call a music aficionado.

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        There's a problem with this "give them what they want and they won't pirate" when it comes to Spotify, yt music, etc:
        They can change the terms at any moment.
        AKA enshittification.

        If you downloaded it or bought a CD? Ain't no enshittification.

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        • N [email protected]

          Printing new editions of a book was always a thing

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          Quietly swapping your earlier edition with the current edition was not, however.

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          • S [email protected]

            Anything similar for ebooks?

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            #147

            Calibre-ebook has a content server, simple setup

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              Calibre-ebook has a content server, simple setup

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              #148

              I meant for buying ebooks w/o DRM.

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                But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                Amazon’s ebook store front (as well as the internet in general) is flooded with AI slop. The internet is a place where the signal to noise ratio is dropping rapidly.

                Physical media is necessary. Especially books. Especially the kinds of books regimes might want to ban. When it’s time to rebuild, we’ll need firm ground to stand on, and physical books work as long as you can hold them.

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                • jerkface@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

                  So, Google before the IPO.

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                  #150

                  Did Google ever offer an open source client for the email?

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                  • T [email protected]

                    Monks are celibate. But if someone were to transcribe that incorrectly...

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                    Ahhhhh, now I get it. Thanks for the clarification.

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                      But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                      Is there a way to donate to the authors? Because I think pirating and then donating the money (directly) to the author is much more ethical than putting a megacorp or a publisher in between

                      Even better if you send it with something like Monero which doesn't even put the bank between you and the author

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                      • penquin@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                        Thank you. Do you have another kobo with higher DPI that you can compare it to? I'm very weird when it comes to this. I can see pixels very easily and then would never be able to focus anymore. lol. I can't even use anything but 4k screens on my laptops and PC, that's how bad I am.

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                        Sorry, no. No other e-ink devices at all.

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                          Printing new editions of a book was always a thing

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                          Forcibly destroying all previous editions is not however

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                          • flisty@mstdn.socialF [email protected]

                            @Hossenfeffer @racemaniac n*r is deemed a slur *by the group it is used about*. "Transgender" is not. Changing references to be more inclusive/respectful of a group is very different to erasing the existence of a group entirely.

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                            Yes, I agree.

                            But surely you can acknowledge the possibility that some people believe transgenderism is an affront to god and an existential threat to children, or whatever, then their position is not dissimilar.

                            That’s the issue. What makes ‘this is offensive’ more valid than ‘this is dangerous’?

                            This is just another front in the war between religion and reason.

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                            • bilb@lem.monsterB [email protected]

                              Sorry, no. No other e-ink devices at all.

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                              No worries. Thank you

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                                Yeah, I tired Audiobookshelf and gave up after fighting with it for a day or two. It refused to read or write any data on my NAS, so it couldn’t actually save/load any audiobook files.

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                                Rather annoying. You would think that it shouldn't make a difference whether or not a mounted drive is present in the machine. I run everything I host in containers on a single machine, so I can't say whether I'd have encountered such issues.

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                                • jerkface@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

                                  Self hosting your email server, are you? How many hours a month does that take?

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                                  I do. It takes about 1 hour every 3 months. It's pretty easy, actually

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    Do you have a friend code we could put in if we do sign up for libro.fm? I don't mind getting people free stuff for recommending awesome products!

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                                    For sure, thanks!
                                    https://libro.fm/referral?rf_code=lfm723891

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                                    • hossenfeffer@feddit.ukH [email protected]

                                      Yes, I agree.

                                      But surely you can acknowledge the possibility that some people believe transgenderism is an affront to god and an existential threat to children, or whatever, then their position is not dissimilar.

                                      That’s the issue. What makes ‘this is offensive’ more valid than ‘this is dangerous’?

                                      This is just another front in the war between religion and reason.

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                                      @Hossenfeffer well "this is offensive [to the subject]" is more valid than "this is dangerous [to the reader]" for one. A subject can't choose what the reader thinks of them afterwards - they have to hope that the reader understands enough context to realise they are, actually, equally human. A reader, in contrast, gets to choose whether they agree with the premise. Otherwise history would have destroyed all copies of every religious book, or Mein Kampf or the Little Red Book or Das Kapital.

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                                      • flisty@mstdn.socialF [email protected]

                                        @Hossenfeffer well "this is offensive [to the subject]" is more valid than "this is dangerous [to the reader]" for one. A subject can't choose what the reader thinks of them afterwards - they have to hope that the reader understands enough context to realise they are, actually, equally human. A reader, in contrast, gets to choose whether they agree with the premise. Otherwise history would have destroyed all copies of every religious book, or Mein Kampf or the Little Red Book or Das Kapital.

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                                        @Hossenfeffer as with everything it usually boils down to who has the power/control. An (adult) reader can choose what they read or how they interpret it, and can also often control what a child reads and how that child interprets it too. A subject cannot choose how they are read about, so it is up to the writer and publisher to control that message and reduce misinterpretation where possible. It's a similar framework to cultural appropriation or "doing an accent". Are you punching up or down?

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                                        • flisty@mstdn.socialF [email protected]

                                          @Hossenfeffer as with everything it usually boils down to who has the power/control. An (adult) reader can choose what they read or how they interpret it, and can also often control what a child reads and how that child interprets it too. A subject cannot choose how they are read about, so it is up to the writer and publisher to control that message and reduce misinterpretation where possible. It's a similar framework to cultural appropriation or "doing an accent". Are you punching up or down?

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                                          @Hossenfeffer but when it comes down to it I think really we've ceded our understanding of morality to "the market" anyway. It's bad when politicians say to do it but if "the people" follow (or if, for example, we regulate schools so they *have* to follow) and that's the only way to make it sell then it's ok. Majority rules, I guess. But my personal feeling is that when it comes to pure morality it's about where the power lies. And often that's the power of controlling the narrative.

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