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Europe goes into daylight saving time despite controversy

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  • M [email protected]

    The thing I don't get is why it happens in the summer rather than the winter.

    In the UK it gets dark at about 4pm in winter. We basically get no leisure time during daylight but we do get a bit of light during getting ready for work time when we don't really need it.

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    It's all a plot by Big Torch!

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    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

      Summary

      Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

      Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

      Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

      Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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      I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

      A) 1 hour

      B) 2 hours

      C) 3 hours

      D) 2 hours 30 minutes

      E) any of the above

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      • F [email protected]

        That guy was in 1895, which is a hundred years after Ben Franklin suggested it, but neither of them were responsible because it wasn't adopted until the early 20th century in Canada, Germany, Austria, and the USA.

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        Well thanks. TIL.

        Having said that, "mentioning" is not inventing.

        It would be cool if we had fat burning pizza. There you have it. I mentioned it first, so I invented it.

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        • B [email protected]

          It's the standard. It's what clocks are "supposed" to be set at. DST forces everyone to pretend it's another time. Let people take advantage of summer daylight how they see fit rather than forcing them to.

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          Time is a human construct there is no “supposed”.

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          • B [email protected]

            I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

            A) 1 hour

            B) 2 hours

            C) 3 hours

            D) 2 hours 30 minutes

            E) any of the above

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            American here, trick question, it's E. Irrelevant, the driver is only paid through tips and the employer doesn't pay payroll taxes, so it's any.

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            • B [email protected]

              I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

              A) 1 hour

              B) 2 hours

              C) 3 hours

              D) 2 hours 30 minutes

              E) any of the above

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              #126

              A, B or C.

              D would mean that you are in a country with a half hour DST offset, in which case we would miss the option 1 hour and 30 minutes.

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              • E [email protected]

                Well thanks. TIL.

                Having said that, "mentioning" is not inventing.

                It would be cool if we had fat burning pizza. There you have it. I mentioned it first, so I invented it.

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                Not your fault that the Internet is full of casual misinformation. None of us are immune from that.

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                • B [email protected]

                  I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

                  A) 1 hour

                  B) 2 hours

                  C) 3 hours

                  D) 2 hours 30 minutes

                  E) any of the above

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                  #128

                  When I worked an hourly job on the night shift, we would all clock out to change the time and then clock back in.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    I literally couldn’t care less which time we pick, I just want the madness to STOP

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                    Totally this discussion has been going on for ages let's just say its dumb in this fay and age and stop it.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      The thing I don't get is why it happens in the summer rather than the winter.

                      In the UK it gets dark at about 4pm in winter. We basically get no leisure time during daylight but we do get a bit of light during getting ready for work time when we don't really need it.

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                      In the US they claim it's about kids walking to school/the bus stop

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                      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                        Summary

                        Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

                        Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

                        Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

                        Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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                        #131

                        They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?

                        I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          I advocate for it. So far I'm always dismissed as a joke.

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                          Yeah, that is silly. If you're going to be that radical, you may as well go decimal at the same time. 10 hours, 100 minutes, 100 seconds. Ignore when the sun rises. Have 400 days in a year, ignore when the seasons come. I bet you my best docker container people hate and ignore the broken system that bears no relationship to their reality.

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                          • H [email protected]

                            give me whichever option that maximizes sunlight during most people's free time

                            That’s not changed by adjusting clocks, it’s changed by adjusting work hours.

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                            #133

                            This makes no sense. Changing the clocks isn't what makes you change your sleep/wake cycle AT ALL. It's changing when the working day starts that does that.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              This makes no sense. Changing the clocks isn't what makes you change your sleep/wake cycle AT ALL. It's changing when the working day starts that does that.

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                              Uh yeah, that’s what I said.

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                              • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Summary

                                Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

                                Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

                                Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

                                Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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                                I fucking hate it

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                                • H [email protected]

                                  Uh yeah, that’s what I said.

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                                  I score zero for reading comprehension!

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                                  • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                    They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?

                                    I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.

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                                    More daylight in summer rocks. It would be equally rocking in Winter. The clocks shoud stay forward.

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                                    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      Summary

                                      Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

                                      Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

                                      Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

                                      Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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                                      I'll take 7 hour workdays in summer instead.

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                                      • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                        They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?

                                        I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.

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                                        it never actually served a practical purpose. It was argued about then, too.

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                                          American here, trick question, it's E. Irrelevant, the driver is only paid through tips and the employer doesn't pay payroll taxes, so it's any.

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                                          E is "any of the above"

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