Data Organization
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I use that all the time but never knew it had a specific name.
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This was one of the reasons I quit trying to develop on Windows way back when. I had a very well organized system of subfolders for all my code, and it was literally running into some kind of path length limit trying to import deeply nested dependencies in certain projects. This was WELL into the era of 64-bit computing, absolutely no excuse other than Microsoft taking shortcuts.
I still run into this issue when one of my company's clients requires developing on Windows. Doesn't take many subfolders before
node_modulesjust starts breaking.There are lots of reasons I hate developing on windows and that's certainly one of them.
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Data shouldn't be organized hirarchically.
How would you propose to organize it then?
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I like my
YYYY.MM.DD-textformat and you can sue me for itDots are reserved for filetype information, heathen.
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Last I checked that’s not a Finder replacement.
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I shit you not, IT around 2004, I had a nurse who stored all her important docs in "Recyle Bin"
She put in a ticket that her computer was slow. We scheduled a time to look at it and made sure she knew to be there.
When I showed up, she had left to go to lunch on purpose so she could take a free long lunch. I asked her manager to call her back in, she refused.
I diagnosed she was out of space, and emptied her bin.
That did not end up going well.
She was furious, Her boss was mad. My boss was pissed that it happened but considered it reasonable since she refused to be there.
I spent the better part of 4 hours undeleting deleted recycle bin contents which is WAYYYYYY harder than undeleting deleted files. They're already UUID's and bringing them back into existence will not put them back in the recycle bin, all that meta is gone.
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Because if you're looking for a subfolder you're not looking for a file, and vice versa? It doesn't matter much in sparse directories, but it annoys me having to scroll through a ton of files to find the folder I want in directories with both.
I too like a lot of things about Mac, but finder could be improved, for sure.
(I have gotten used to a lot of its features and hate Windows' defaults too, so there's that. I don't think an ideal exists, unless it's in Linux somewhere and I just need to dual boot the desktop and get it over with)
On macOS I just type the first few letters of the file/folder and because it’s in alphabetical order, I find it immediately. I don’t want to have to think “oh is this a file or a folder” then scroll around to the appropriate area.
This reminds me of users who complain about
<select>fields on websites: they always want some weird sorting instead of just tabbing into the field and typing a few letters. -
On macOS I just type the first few letters of the file/folder and because it’s in alphabetical order, I find it immediately. I don’t want to have to think “oh is this a file or a folder” then scroll around to the appropriate area.
This reminds me of users who complain about
<select>fields on websites: they always want some weird sorting instead of just tabbing into the field and typing a few letters.I haven't memorized everything, so file folders grouped together is easier.
Having the option to choose to sort either way would be the best option.
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I find myself having too many nested folders, and I’m just a normie. I wonder how deep they go for you tech people.
At some points, Windows won’t let me change the file name because it was too long and I’m assuming the file path to it plus the ridiculously long name (“person last name, first name - type of document (purpose) yyyymmdd”) just breaks Windows.
Sometimes I have to copy those files to my desktop just to rename the new file, so that I can upload the file to an online system that only lets me upload files with names under 42 characters long. It’s wild.
Too deep.
I am having a peoblem bwcause sometimes I broke my own rules or sorted every itme in it's own folder. -
On macOS I just type the first few letters of the file/folder and because it’s in alphabetical order, I find it immediately. I don’t want to have to think “oh is this a file or a folder” then scroll around to the appropriate area.
This reminds me of users who complain about
<select>fields on websites: they always want some weird sorting instead of just tabbing into the field and typing a few letters.Thar makes sense, although I am generally not trying to use the keyboard at the same time (to be honest I was not aware you could filter a finder view like that, I thought it only ran search and I have never found MacOS's search to be satisfactory)
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Thar makes sense, although I am generally not trying to use the keyboard at the same time (to be honest I was not aware you could filter a finder view like that, I thought it only ran search and I have never found MacOS's search to be satisfactory)
I grew up on Windows but when I came to macOS I went hard into key commands; the UI is a lot more uniform so using a combination of key commands and Trackpad gestures you can fly through tasks pretty quickly.
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I shit you not, IT around 2004, I had a nurse who stored all her important docs in "Recyle Bin"
She put in a ticket that her computer was slow. We scheduled a time to look at it and made sure she knew to be there.
When I showed up, she had left to go to lunch on purpose so she could take a free long lunch. I asked her manager to call her back in, she refused.
I diagnosed she was out of space, and emptied her bin.
That did not end up going well.
She was furious, Her boss was mad. My boss was pissed that it happened but considered it reasonable since she refused to be there.
I spent the better part of 4 hours undeleting deleted recycle bin contents which is WAYYYYYY harder than undeleting deleted files. They're already UUID's and bringing them back into existence will not put them back in the recycle bin, all that meta is gone.
Well duh.
It is a recycle bin after all.
The thoughts will be reused at some point for something new /s -
If you call the bottom picture a "Data Lake" you can IPO and walk away with millions
It's horizontal scaling!
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Anyone who uses YYMMDD instead of ISO 8601 needs to be fed feet first into a wood chipper.
I make a point to train people on this at work, and I also make a point to periodically delete all relevant files that are not dated or not dated correctly
oh no you lost some important files? should've followed the standards
we only have so much space and your 1.2 GB undated file that isn't even in the folder it should be in is getting deleted
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As an old person who has archives dating back to the 90s, yes.
Here you go gramps:
(shortD) => { return parseInt(shortD.slice(0, 2), 10) > 50 ? "19" + shortD : "20"+shortD; } -
ISO 8601 is
YYYYMMDD(orYYYY-MM-DDin extended format)Are you really going to wood chipper someone for leaving off the leading
20? I think we can safely infer the century and millennium with a high confidence, why not trade them for two extra name characters?I use to do that but got tired of typing out unnecessary characters and appreciate the shorter character length. I think my folders and files will be long gone by Y2Point1K.
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ISO 8601 is
YYYYMMDD(orYYYY-MM-DDin extended format)Are you really going to wood chipper someone for leaving off the leading
20? I think we can safely infer the century and millennium with a high confidence, why not trade them for two extra name characters?I recently had an accountant file something for the IRS that was dated as expiring in 1940 when it should've been 2040. I had to catch it myself after reading through 70 pages of dense forms before it was sent off, and I could've easily missed it.
Digital records have existed long enough now that it's downright irresponsible to leave off the century for anything where having an accurate date might even slightly matter.
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Here you go gramps:
(shortD) => { return parseInt(shortD.slice(0, 2), 10) > 50 ? "19" + shortD : "20"+shortD; }wrote last edited by [email protected]Did the software industry learn nothing from Y2K? Was it too long ago already for people to remember the mess we made for ourselves?
Saving two characters in a file name is not worth the hell you are leaving in your trail by shoving this nonsense in an obscure corner of production code that people are going to forget about until it's too late.
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So do I, but I don't think I need to worry too much about confusing them with 2090.
Just you wait...
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I often catch myself using Downloads to store a very suspicious quantity of files.
Linux or Windows… doesn’t matter. Downloads is where I. Will find it.
