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How do you cope with the amount of shit that goes on in the world?

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  • E [email protected]

    Lol. Welcome to chasing a pipe dream or crippling depression.

    The answer is largely as simple as socialism plus Kant with some secular Jesus because any system that condones human exploitation will eventually implode due to psychopaths' willingness to sacrifice others for power.

    But literally basically everything is done wrong to maximize exploitation. Housing, schooling, medicine, food... All fucked to make the richest richer.

    Liberalism is the slow road to fascism.

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    This is idealist, not materiakist. Maximizing hunan exploitation isn't a law of physics, but a byproduct of modes of production like Capitalism. Socialism is not a simple answer, but it is correct regardless. Moreover, Marxism already has a philosophical component in Dialwctical Materialism, why replace it with Kant?

    I suggest you read theory yourself.

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      When I was a teenager I was way into eastern spirituality and meditation, taoism. People think meditating is having no thoughts. The thoughts are still there. They speed through your mind like cars on a train. Meditation is not focusing on each individual car. You let the cars blur by, not trying to focus on the cars going by. It's a blur, and you them as a train going by not a bunch of box cars.

      I bring this up because during some of the darker days in my life, I let time pass by me in such a way. Each day fading into the next, slipping through my fingers as though it were sand. It helped me not focus on the train car I was currently in.

      Sorry this was so long winded. I just have shared your feelings for a long time throughout my life, and this stuff helped me through what I felt trapped in earlier on life. Addicted to spooky drugs. Homeless. No jobs. Felt like I was at the bottom on the ocean there was so much pressure. I hope you find your way through these feelings, but I definitely understand how you feel. I can't tell you for sure things will get better, but time will carry us forward.

      Peace.

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      Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I appreciate it and your perspective. Logically I can understand and accept what you're saying, but emotionally I'm not so lucky.

      I've struggled with my mental health for most of my life anyway, but I lost my wife, 2 cats, FIL and everything I owned in a house fire that I, for whatever reason, walked away from last April. I've spent the last year trying to understand it, and the conclusion I've come to is death. No matter the highs or the lows, the recognition of the present or the expectation of better days, death seems to hold the most weight. I'm tired, you know? Not like a long day tired, but like my soul, if it exists, is tired.

      I'm in therapy and have been for years, and I know the tricks pretty well. I have a cat and a few friends that for better or for worse guilt me into staying, but they don't know this pain thankfully. We're all going to die one day anyway so what's it matter if I, 1 meaningless person out of 8 billion, goes early? That's where I weigh the pros and cons.

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        Particularly - America.

        I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

        However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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        Stoicism.

        It does not make sense to worry about things outside my ability to change. Humanity has survived significantly worse. All I can do is prepare, run, lift weights, and whatever else can be useful.

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          Particularly - America.

          I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

          However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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          I don't.

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            What in the world is socialism plus Kant? I will always defend the study of Kant and view him to the one of the most important figures in the history of the world to read but the foundation concepts of the majority of Kant’s ideas are contradictory with socialism. Deontological ethics are diametrically opposed to dialectal materialism. The presumption of the goal preceding the effect in our analysis fails to look at the underlying reality pinning the action to the world. Even if we accept the categorical imperative’s universality formation, the Kingdom of End’s prior assumption relies on the idea that the autonomous will can even exist, something that is obviously not reasonable within a dialectical materialist framework.

            The idea of the transcendental idealism is a phenomenal, not materialist view of the world. Knowledge beginning with sense and not experience would completely be opposed to essentially the entire conclusions and analysis of Marx.

            Sorry if I misrepresenting what you mean but my understanding of Kant would make this whole concept be nonsensical.

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            In short, Kant said people should be the goal, not the means.

            It's ok to make yourself dinner.

            It's ok to make your friend dinner because you want to make them happy.

            It's not ok to make your friend dinner because you want to have sex with them.

            It's not ok to make your friend make you dinner because you don't want to cook.

            Every facet of capitalism is exploitation by design as profit is unpaid labor. However classless socialism isn't automatically devoid of exploitation.

            None of us asked to be here. I certainly don't want to be here anymore. Placing the value of a life upon the imaginary lines it landed between, how much money it's parents had, or the color of it's skin are all pretty fucked up.

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            • V [email protected]

              Particularly - America.

              I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

              However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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              Poorly, to be perfectly honest.

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              • V [email protected]

                Particularly - America.

                I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

                However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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                Try and see the optimistic side of things. Like, maybe if Trump and his ilk are successful, they truly will try and make things better for the world. I know it's a long shot, but what the fuck else can I do?

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                • E [email protected]

                  In short, Kant said people should be the goal, not the means.

                  It's ok to make yourself dinner.

                  It's ok to make your friend dinner because you want to make them happy.

                  It's not ok to make your friend dinner because you want to have sex with them.

                  It's not ok to make your friend make you dinner because you don't want to cook.

                  Every facet of capitalism is exploitation by design as profit is unpaid labor. However classless socialism isn't automatically devoid of exploitation.

                  None of us asked to be here. I certainly don't want to be here anymore. Placing the value of a life upon the imaginary lines it landed between, how much money it's parents had, or the color of it's skin are all pretty fucked up.

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                  First of all, Kant’s principle of humanity is just one component of his philosophy. Boiling down all of Kant’s corpus to saying that that that is it “in short” is ridiculous. You can’t just separate the principle of humanity from Kant as a whole. The categorical imperative is not just the principle of humanity. You also said that it is socialism plus Kant but didn’t even seem to read my explanation of immaterialism in Kantian metaphysics.

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                    First of all, Kant’s principle of humanity is just one component of his philosophy. Boiling down all of Kant’s corpus to saying that that that is it “in short” is ridiculous. You can’t just separate the principle of humanity from Kant as a whole. The categorical imperative is not just the principle of humanity. You also said that it is socialism plus Kant but didn’t even seem to read my explanation of immaterialism in Kantian metaphysics.

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                    Because you asked what I meant. Of course what I meant didn't include your response to it.

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                    • V [email protected]

                      Particularly - America.

                      I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

                      However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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                      Look on the bright side, when's the last time you ever heard of the word famine?

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                      • E [email protected]

                        Because you asked what I meant. Of course what I meant didn't include your response to it.

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                        It’s because your thoughts aren’t inline with Kant’s actual philosophy and is an oversimplification of it to just one principal which bastardizes both what socialism is and what Kant wrote.

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                          Look on the bright side, when's the last time you ever heard of the word famine?

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                          Always look on the bright side of life

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                          • V [email protected]

                            Particularly - America.

                            I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

                            However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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                            Avoid news. Turn off internet. Literally, stop looking for like two weeks. The difference is palatable. I've used this technique a handful of times over the years.

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                              Look on the bright side, when's the last time you ever heard of the word famine?

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                              That's a valid and useful thought.

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                                Avoid news. Turn off internet. Literally, stop looking for like two weeks. The difference is palatable. I've used this technique a handful of times over the years.

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                                The old "ignorance is bliss" strategy. Tried and true.

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                                • V [email protected]

                                  Particularly - America.

                                  I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

                                  However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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                                  Organize in your community. Doing something/anything will help alleviate the anxiety and stress you are feeling.

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                                  • V [email protected]

                                    Particularly - America.

                                    I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

                                    However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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                                    One thing I've been doing is doing random online classes instead of doom scrolling. There's a ton of free ones that you can do at your own pace and spend an hour or two each day learning new stuff. Just generally being more mindful and curating my media inputs and replacing algorithmic rage inducement with better stuff. Here's a few examples, but there's tons all over the web:

                                    Basic web dev @ theodinproject

                                    Blender 2.8 Fundamentals

                                    Your First 2D Game

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                                      Particularly - America.

                                      I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

                                      However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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                                      I help out at the local food bank and spend a lot of time on Imgur looking at not politics

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                                        I weigh the pros and cons of committing suicide every single day.

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                                        As long as there's a chance of revolution, I'll stay alive to see it. I don't see a reason to take my own life when I'll soon have an opportunity to give it willingly.

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                                          Particularly - America.

                                          I personally have found that, I live in the past to cope. Nostalgia is my drug. It sometimes doesn't help because all it does is that it makes me yearn and beg for things to be back to where things were. Because it warps my mind into opening time capsules whenever I watch an old show or listen to an episode of some niche radio show that long stopped producing new material.

                                          However, it helps because, it at least reminds me that there are some things that I can revisit. If I couldn't revisit anything, play the games I played, read the books I read, watched the movies/shows I used to, then I'd be up shit's creek because I'd have to face the fucked up things people consider what are the 'best that's offered'.

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                                          There is always something going on. The world is always falling apart. The locations just vary.

                                          In other words, this too shall pass. Do what you can to make the world a better place, survive, and let go of what you cannot control. Can't carry the world on you shoulders all the time. Sometimes it has to save isself or deal with the consequences.

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