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Are IDEs really like this ?

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      #1 and 3, definitely, although 3 is usually not really the IDEs fault.

      The others, either not really (#2, 5), who cares, (#4), or maybe occasionally but not really specific to IDEs (#6).

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        I've had everything on this list with Visual Studio alone, with the exception of #2 maybe.

        1. All the AI shit they're adding, plus the millions of windows you can pull up that are all hidden in different places. The only way this is remotely usable is with the search.

        2. This happens every other day when working with Blazor. As an added bonus, it can never decide on spacing and will constantly change it.

        3. Probably a symptom of using legacy code and modern code at the same time, but good god the settings for everything are in a million places.

        4. Another symptom of blazor.

        5. Our project is too big.

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          Before I started reading the meme I actually thought "just use Notepad++".

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            All of those are things that have happened to me (except an IDE that could not handle externally edited files). They are very rare occurrences, but still annoying when I have to get something done.

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              XCode would randomly stop syntax highlighting for years because their engineering was so shit.

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                I've had everything on this list with Visual Studio alone, with the exception of #2 maybe.

                1. All the AI shit they're adding, plus the millions of windows you can pull up that are all hidden in different places. The only way this is remotely usable is with the search.

                2. This happens every other day when working with Blazor. As an added bonus, it can never decide on spacing and will constantly change it.

                3. Probably a symptom of using legacy code and modern code at the same time, but good god the settings for everything are in a million places.

                4. Another symptom of blazor.

                5. Our project is too big.

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                You should refer to Visual Studio by its full title: "Visual Studio (not responding)".

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                  XCode would randomly stop syntax highlighting for years because their engineering was so shit.

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                  In the JetBrains IDEs (which, relatively speaking, I like), I have to use "Invalidate caches and restart" several times a day just to get past all the incorrect error highlighting.

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                    I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.

                    • it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
                    • I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
                    • if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either ❔
                    • basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
                    • if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
                    • freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
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                      At least the number of times I have to use the Clean Java Language Workspace in VS Code has declined recently. I mean, I still have to, just not as often.

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                        #1 and 3, definitely, although 3 is usually not really the IDEs fault.

                        The others, either not really (#2, 5), who cares, (#4), or maybe occasionally but not really specific to IDEs (#6).

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                        How is #6 not specific to IDEs? I've never had vim, np++, or any other dedicated editor freeze; and I've used them to edit multi-gigabyte log files before.

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                          It's almost enough to make me feel nostalgic for the DOS version of Borland Turbo Pascal, which wasn't bright enough to do any of this stuff. (Well, it could freeze up, I suppose, but the only time I actually managed to do anything like that, it involved a null pointer dereference that would have triggered a segfault on any modern system.)

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                            Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled

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                              Also using 10GB memory ...

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                                  I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.

                                  • it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
                                  • I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
                                  • if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either ❔
                                  • basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
                                  • if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
                                  • freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
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                                  basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅

                                  Nah, there is:

                                  1. A special hotkey that allows you to find and execute virtually any command. Same in vscode with ctrl+shift+p.
                                  2. Text-based search in the settings dialog.

                                  So even though things are buried somewhere deep, it's easy to find them.

                                  freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅

                                  Sounds like a skill hardware issue tbh.

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                                    I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.

                                    • it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
                                    • I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
                                    • if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either ❔
                                    • basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
                                    • if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
                                    • freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
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                                    It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.

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                                      Thanks for sharing this here 😊😊😊

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                                        I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..

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                                          I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..

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                                          You get the most out of them when working on bigger projects with many files and multiple contributers:

                                          • Version control integration
                                          • Automatic profiling
                                          • Debugger integration
                                          • Refactoring
                                          • Jump to Definition/Parent/Children/Usages of a Symbol
                                          • ...

                                          For changing a single file, I'd often just launch a simple editor too.

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