Are IDEs really like this ?
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At least the number of times I have to use the Clean Java Language Workspace in VS Code has declined recently. I mean, I still have to, just not as often.
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#1 and 3, definitely, although 3 is usually not really the IDEs fault.
The others, either not really (#2, 5), who cares, (#4), or maybe occasionally but not really specific to IDEs (#6).
How is #6 not specific to IDEs? I've never had vim, np++, or any other dedicated editor freeze; and I've used them to edit multi-gigabyte log files before.
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It's almost enough to make me feel nostalgic for the DOS version of Borland Turbo Pascal, which wasn't bright enough to do any of this stuff. (Well, it could freeze up, I suppose, but the only time I actually managed to do anything like that, it involved a null pointer dereference that would have triggered a segfault on any modern system.)
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Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled
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Also using 10GB memory ...
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I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.
- it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it
- I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason
- if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either
- basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing
- if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this
- freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing
wrote on last edited by [email protected]basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing
Nah, there is:
- A special hotkey that allows you to find and execute virtually any command. Same in vscode with ctrl+shift+p.
- Text-based search in the settings dialog.
So even though things are buried somewhere deep, it's easy to find them.
freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing
Sounds like a
skillhardware issue tbh. - it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it
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I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.
- it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it
- I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason
- if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either
- basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing
- if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this
- freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing
It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.
- it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it
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I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..
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I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You get the most out of them when working on bigger projects with many files and multiple contributers:
- Version control integration
- Automatic profiling
- Debugger integration
- Refactoring
- Jump to Definition/Parent/Children/Usages of a Symbol
- ...
For changing a single file, I'd often just launch a simple editor too.
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Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".
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Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]What is that hyperlink?
I swear to God if it is what I think it is, I'm going to jump into fucking traffic carrying as many baby ducks as I can.
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Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".
Easymotion is the only plugin I need to be happy.
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Also using 10GB memory ...
Hah, per window.
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Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Unless you need to work on a solution with more than a few projects, such as Unity games. Then the LSPs go haywire and eat 20+Gb of memory, while not actually working.
Which, ofc, is Microsoft's fault, since it's their analyzer that has had the bug for years now. Rider didn't have that problem, but it shits itself when you change branches. You can't win
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It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.
No, it only has an integrated html previewer. They removed the full integrated browser because it was unnecessary and an actual browser did the trick
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VSCode is the first development environment I’ve used that doesn’t make me feel like this. It’s not perfect but the base application is rock solid and the full DE experience is the more reliable than any other DE I’ve used.
P.S. I specifically said DE for those people who say VSCode isn’t an IDE. Personally I don’t see the point in differentiating.
P.P.S. Sublime is not a DE in my opinion. It’s an excellent text editor with syntax highlighting. The plugins were an afterthought and it was never intended to provide the full experience. Granted I haven’t used it in years.
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I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..
If you all you need a text editor... great. But an IDE gives you tons of tools, such as debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection, intergated terminals, some may even include visual gui editors. Thats why they are called "Development environments".
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If you all you need a text editor... great. But an IDE gives you tons of tools, such as debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection, intergated terminals, some may even include visual gui editors. Thats why they are called "Development environments".
debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection
glorified printf debugging
intergated terminal
real terminal
