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Are IDEs really like this ?

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    I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..

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    You get the most out of them when working on bigger projects with many files and multiple contributers:

    • Version control integration
    • Automatic profiling
    • Debugger integration
    • Refactoring
    • Jump to Definition/Parent/Children/Usages of a Symbol
    • ...

    For changing a single file, I'd often just launch a simple editor too.

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      Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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        Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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        What is that hyperlink?

        I swear to God if it is what I think it is, I'm going to jump into fucking traffic carrying as many baby ducks as I can.

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          Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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          Easymotion is the only plugin I need to be happy.

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            Also using 10GB memory ...

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            Hah, per window.

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            • programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.comP [email protected]

              Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled

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              Unless you need to work on a solution with more than a few projects, such as Unity games. Then the LSPs go haywire and eat 20+Gb of memory, while not actually working.

              Which, ofc, is Microsoft's fault, since it's their analyzer that has had the bug for years now. Rider didn't have that problem, but it shits itself when you change branches. You can't win 😞

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              • moomoomoo309@programming.devM [email protected]

                It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.

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                No, it only has an integrated html previewer. They removed the full integrated browser because it was unnecessary and an actual browser did the trick

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                  VSCode is the first development environment I’ve used that doesn’t make me feel like this. It’s not perfect but the base application is rock solid and the full DE experience is the more reliable than any other DE I’ve used.

                  P.S. I specifically said DE for those people who say VSCode isn’t an IDE. Personally I don’t see the point in differentiating.

                  P.P.S. Sublime is not a DE in my opinion. It’s an excellent text editor with syntax highlighting. The plugins were an afterthought and it was never intended to provide the full experience. Granted I haven’t used it in years.

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                  • G [email protected]

                    I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..

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                    If you all you need a text editor... great. But an IDE gives you tons of tools, such as debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection, intergated terminals, some may even include visual gui editors. Thats why they are called "Development environments".

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                      If you all you need a text editor... great. But an IDE gives you tons of tools, such as debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection, intergated terminals, some may even include visual gui editors. Thats why they are called "Development environments".

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                      debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection

                      glorified printf debugging

                      intergated terminal

                      real terminal

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                        What is that hyperlink?

                        I swear to God if it is what I think it is, I'm going to jump into fucking traffic carrying as many baby ducks as I can.

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                        What do you think it is?

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                        • programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.comP [email protected]

                          Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled

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                          IIRC vi has been installed, or perhaps tinyvim, then I always go and install vim-gtk

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                            The IDE is the worst part of being an iOS developer.

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                              I'd argue the benefits outweigh the downsides

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                              • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                                Before I started reading the meme I actually thought "just use Notepad++".

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                                I can't live without VIM keybinds. Maybe I'm a boomer. I do use it as a note taking or "collect my thoughts" app. Or just a place to paste shit when I'm working. Very useful for that. Though only when I'm forced to be on Windows.

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                                  Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/378/

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                                  • O [email protected]

                                    Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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                                    I only use nerdtree, and bind some scripts to F-keys. Haven't updated in a couple years, just works.

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                                      In the JetBrains IDEs (which, relatively speaking, I like), I have to use "Invalidate caches and restart" several times a day just to get past all the incorrect error highlighting.

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                                      Ah, is that the way to address that? I don't run into incorrect error highlighting often, and it's mostly great, but when it gets it wrong, it can be very stubborn about it.

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                                        None of those issues for my main IDE, though Rider on some occasions do get stuck marking some spelling errors after they are fixed.

                                        It has stuttered a few times, but pretty rare. But it does have a bug where it think it is building a project, but isn't. And requires a restart to fix... Easy to trigger if you try building a project while it's loading the project...

                                        Visual Stuido with Resharper is the one where things would randomly stop working though. Especially hotkeys would sometimes stop working until I restarted it. Slow and stutter too.

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                                          The IDEs of March

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