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Are IDEs really like this ?

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  • S [email protected]

    I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.

    • it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
    • I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
    • if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either ❔
    • basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
    • if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
    • freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
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    basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅

    Nah, there is:

    1. A special hotkey that allows you to find and execute virtually any command. Same in vscode with ctrl+shift+p.
    2. Text-based search in the settings dialog.

    So even though things are buried somewhere deep, it's easy to find them.

    freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅

    Sounds like a skill hardware issue tbh.

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    • S [email protected]

      I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.

      • it doesn't AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
      • I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
      • if autocomplete isn't working, that is a sign something about the build process isn't set up right, so other things won't work either ❔
      • basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
      • if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
      • freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
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      It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.

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      • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]
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        Thanks for sharing this here 😊😊😊

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          I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..

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            I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..

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            You get the most out of them when working on bigger projects with many files and multiple contributers:

            • Version control integration
            • Automatic profiling
            • Debugger integration
            • Refactoring
            • Jump to Definition/Parent/Children/Usages of a Symbol
            • ...

            For changing a single file, I'd often just launch a simple editor too.

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              Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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                Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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                What is that hyperlink?

                I swear to God if it is what I think it is, I'm going to jump into fucking traffic carrying as many baby ducks as I can.

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                  Meanwhile: vim and Emacs users, constantly installing and configuring plugins to emulate a fraction of the power of IDEs, go "just use vim/Emacs".

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                  Easymotion is the only plugin I need to be happy.

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                    Also using 10GB memory ...

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                    Hah, per window.

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                    • programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.comP [email protected]

                      Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled

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                      Unless you need to work on a solution with more than a few projects, such as Unity games. Then the LSPs go haywire and eat 20+Gb of memory, while not actually working.

                      Which, ofc, is Microsoft's fault, since it's their analyzer that has had the bug for years now. Rider didn't have that problem, but it shits itself when you change branches. You can't win 😞

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                      • moomoomoo309@programming.devM [email protected]

                        It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.

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                        No, it only has an integrated html previewer. They removed the full integrated browser because it was unnecessary and an actual browser did the trick

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                          VSCode is the first development environment I’ve used that doesn’t make me feel like this. It’s not perfect but the base application is rock solid and the full DE experience is the more reliable than any other DE I’ve used.

                          P.S. I specifically said DE for those people who say VSCode isn’t an IDE. Personally I don’t see the point in differentiating.

                          P.P.S. Sublime is not a DE in my opinion. It’s an excellent text editor with syntax highlighting. The plugins were an afterthought and it was never intended to provide the full experience. Granted I haven’t used it in years.

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                            I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file..

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                            If you all you need a text editor... great. But an IDE gives you tons of tools, such as debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection, intergated terminals, some may even include visual gui editors. Thats why they are called "Development environments".

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                              If you all you need a text editor... great. But an IDE gives you tons of tools, such as debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection, intergated terminals, some may even include visual gui editors. Thats why they are called "Development environments".

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                              debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection

                              glorified printf debugging

                              intergated terminal

                              real terminal

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                                What is that hyperlink?

                                I swear to God if it is what I think it is, I'm going to jump into fucking traffic carrying as many baby ducks as I can.

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                                What do you think it is?

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                                • programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.comP [email protected]

                                  Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled

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                                  IIRC vi has been installed, or perhaps tinyvim, then I always go and install vim-gtk

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                                    The IDE is the worst part of being an iOS developer.

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                                      I'd argue the benefits outweigh the downsides

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                                      • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                                        Before I started reading the meme I actually thought "just use Notepad++".

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                                        I can't live without VIM keybinds. Maybe I'm a boomer. I do use it as a note taking or "collect my thoughts" app. Or just a place to paste shit when I'm working. Very useful for that. Though only when I'm forced to be on Windows.

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                                          Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/378/

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