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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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  • P [email protected]

    If the US used something like pix, MasterCard, visa, etc, wouldn't have any power to do this, but they want to make Brazil delete pix from existence. Interesting.

    Edit: grammar

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    The central bank facilitating electronic cash flow makes so much more sense than letting random foreign corporations siphon billions in profit they clearly don't deserve in the slightest from your economy.

    Good on Brazil for breaking free. There's finally been some push here in the EU for EPI/Wero, but progress has been frigid and online payment processing remains extremely fragmented to the point that if I buy something online outside the Benelux with a small vendor, chances are very high I will have to fall back to an American payment processor, which is insane.

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      • E [email protected]

        It's porn. We can focus on more important things billionaires are ruining.

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        It's not about porn, It's about corporations dictating what type of content can be sold. You may not care about porn but what if they were to start going after LGBT stuff or something like that?

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          Payment processors and financial institutions sure do seem to hold disproportionate amounts of power.

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          • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?

            On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.

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            As a form of protest, we should all start scooping up incest porn games.

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            • B [email protected]

              Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.

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              This is why I've been buying games on GOG that I have on Steam.

              Backups in case Gabe or a successor goes off the deep end

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              • V [email protected]

                Oh shit, I saw that the original Leisure Suit Larry games are no longer for sale... wonder if this is why?

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                Naw. That's a rights issue, however they are available on GOG.

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                • P [email protected]

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                  Or maybe using the payment processor's TOS allows them to remove pervy Ai horseshit without having to mod their own TOS. Slam dunk, frankly:

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                    why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?

                    You'll excuse me for thinking this means you think corporate beliefs are more important than the social benefits of neutral financial institutions.

                    To answer your question again without assuming anything about your opinion: they should be forced to process payments because they don't have beliefs, it's better for society if financial institutions only look at the business relevant portions of a business, and a legal obligation is perfectly sufficient to protect their business interests in reputation management. All the same reasons we don't let shipping companies refuse customers for morality reasons.

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                    financial institutions are just like any other company, the only issue the feds try to protect them

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                      Or maybe using the payment processor's TOS allows them to remove pervy Ai horseshit without having to mod their own TOS.

                      Slam dunk, frankly.

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                        Eh, it sounds like a good idea that incest games are getting removed.

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                        how does that sound like a good idea?

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                        • R [email protected]

                          why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?

                          You'll excuse me for thinking this means you think corporate beliefs are more important than the social benefits of neutral financial institutions.

                          To answer your question again without assuming anything about your opinion: they should be forced to process payments because they don't have beliefs, it's better for society if financial institutions only look at the business relevant portions of a business, and a legal obligation is perfectly sufficient to protect their business interests in reputation management. All the same reasons we don't let shipping companies refuse customers for morality reasons.

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                          What if these payment processors have decided it's bad business for them to process payments for incest porn games?

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                            It does extend to others since they put animated, innocent "kid-friendly" looking porn on imageboards.

                            And yes it's akin to beastialty which is vile. Why else would you dress up like an animal?

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                            why shouldn't people be allowed to make artistic choices when drawing pornography?

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                            • C [email protected]

                              Bitcoin has lightning or you could use a chain with faster blocks.

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                              Lightning Labs launched the Lightning Network in 2018 with the goal of reducing the cost and time required for cryptocurrency transaction. Specifically, the bitcoin blockchain can only process around 7 transactions per second (compared to Visa Inc., which can process around 24,000 transactions per second). Despite initial enthusiasm for the Lightning Network, reports on social media of failed transactions, security vulnerabilities, and over-complication lead to a decline in interest.

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                                First they came for the incestuous porn
                                Then they came for the furries
                                Then they came for games with violence
                                Then...
                                Then...
                                Then...

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  Here's what i think is likely. For one reason or another, they get excessive refund/chargeback requests regarding these types of titles and decided to act as they don't think it's profitable.

                                  I don't think they care what so ever what you buy, as long as it's profitable for them.

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                                  I wish that was the case. It's mostly just extreme right lobbying groups like Focus on the Family and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same groups that control the far right, exert colonial control over impoverished African countries, and generally make the world a worse place for everyone. The same groups that manufactured cases to screw up Dobbs, Wedding cake lawsuits, and death penalty laws for LGBTQ citizens of Uganda.

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                                    Wait a minute, PayPal is pulling puritanical bullshit again? Did they learn nothing from the last time they tried that?

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles

                                      Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it

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                                      They had Bitcoin integration for quite a while. It was removed during a system change, probably because very few people used it

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                                        This is why I've been buying games on GOG that I have on Steam.

                                        Backups in case Gabe or a successor goes off the deep end

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                                        I don't have any fear that Gabe will tank steam.

                                        But I will fear what happens after him

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          It's not about porn, It's about corporations dictating what type of content can be sold. You may not care about porn but what if they were to start going after LGBT stuff or something like that?

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                                          That’s the entire point of this. They want to control everything in your life, including the pervy things that affect literally nobody. The entire point is to restrict happiness to things they control. Anything they don’t control is bad.

                                          I think the porn games are stupid but they don’t harm people at all so there is no reason for them not to exist.

                                          In other news, I have a similar form of financial censorship. For years, I have refused to accept or send money through PayPal and its sister products.

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