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EA partners with the company behind Stable Diffusion to make games with AI

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  • P [email protected]

    This will suck so fucking hard

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    For them

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    • D [email protected]

      I can't start boycotting a company that I've been boycotting for well over a decade.

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      Carry on, sir.

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      • B [email protected]

        Great for you. You did say "almost every workflow". How many workflows exist beyond your own lived experience? Do you work on games, do you know all the workflows there? Citation absolutely fucking needed.

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        I have worked on games, and have a good understanding of the workflows involved.

        You'll obviously still need to do the creative parts manually (and should!) but the majority of the work involving the engine core build and the specific game coding, that can all be sped up borderline exponentially.

        But I'm glad that someone with absolutely no understanding of the topic does their best to call out those who do show some experience on the topic just because they don't get a neatly pre-chewed and pre-digested reply detailing all the information they lack and are unwilling to look it up themselves. As a next step would you like me to cut your steak up and feed it to you byte by byte, or tuck you in at night?

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          He who has never tasted bread would be contented by porridge.

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            He who has never tasted bread would be contented by porridge.

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            We've been playing together for ~20 years, since long before there were any AI tools.

            Once again you're making some wildly inaccurate assumptions.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

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                You think I have them captive somehow? Your assumptions are getting weirder and weirder.

                We all have other groups we play with too, this is just the "core" group that's been together longest.

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                  For sure, the popular opinion on reddit/Lemmy skews towards absolutely self-hosting everything they can, and multi-trillion dollar tech companies controlling AI skews the opinions of the technology negative. I have a BIL who runs self-hosted AI though (requiring 2 x 4090s in series for his use-case), so it can be done. The tech is only as shit as the user allows it to be (environmental concerns, obviously its pretty objectively shit)

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                    For sure, the popular opinion on reddit/Lemmy skews towards absolutely self-hosting everything they can, and multi-trillion dollar tech companies controlling AI skews the opinions of the technology negative. I have a BIL who runs self-hosted AI though (requiring 2 x 4090s in series for his use-case), so it can be done. The tech is only as shit as the user allows it to be (environmental concerns, obviously its pretty objectively shit)

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                    I do much of my image work with local models, at least when it comes to trying to get something specific. All audio transcription is done with a local model, and a lot of the summarization and categorization of those transcripts is also local models.

                    The comment where I explained this all got downvoted too, though, so yeah. Still a lot of "AI=bad" regardless of self-hosted or not.

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                      if isnt already bad enough that SAUDIA arabia and kushner owns it.

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                        The tool calling part might be doable (though I've personally struggled to get it working passably with local models), but if the goal is to tell a compelling story or create an interesting experience, especially if doing so in a very open ended way, that isn't trivial. The only LLM based game I've personally played that seemed good was mostly on rails and partially scripted, most of them just aren't very interesting to play, because the model doesn't have a good idea where it's going with anything and is often not very creative, the stuffy personality of the instruct model seems to infect the dialogue and apparent thought process of the characters. For a specific example I'd recommend watching streams of the game Suck Up, which has a genuinely cool concept and solid execution, but you can see people being frustrated running into its limitations as something to interact with creatively.

                        I've tried a couple times to start game projects involving LLMs, and get the feeling that there is a lot of exploration that needs to be done into what can be done well and where that intersects with what is actually fun. Kind of don't expect EA to be the one to do that.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          This will suck so fucking hard

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                          Just look at skate. Now imagine that but somehow worse and even uglier

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                            Your experience counts for jack shit. There is zero evidence that AI is substantially improving efficiency. There is some that suggests its effect is negative.

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                              Who fucking asked for that? WHO??!!

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                              They all went to the same Donald Trump business school.

                              1. Wages are very expensive.

                              2. Fire as many people as you can.

                              3. Shareholders see number go up.

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                                EA is the world's shittiest game company. Just gutter trash all the way through.

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                                  This is not going to end well.

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                                    I can't start boycotting a company that I've been boycotting for well over a decade.

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                                    Last thing I bought from them was Mass Effect (only the first one) circa 2008 I think.

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                                      Sure, why not? Its up to gamers to dump them, and only time will tell how this will evolve.

                                      It also comes to the point replacing employees with AI.

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                                        Just so people know, you can ignore games by publisher in steam by searching their name in the store, clicking their page, then click the gear icon to ignore. EA who? Ubiwhat?

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                                          For those that don't know, Stability AI is already a zombie, even in the local ML community. SD3 was a flop, they shed all their devs/projects worth anything, and now with Qwen/Longcat SAI is beyond obsolete.

                                          Apparently EA didn't get the message. They invested in a broken, burning company who's only decent results are free and old?

                                          ...Sounds about right.

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