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EA partners with the company behind Stable Diffusion to make games with AI

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    He who has never tasted bread would be contented by porridge.

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      He who has never tasted bread would be contented by porridge.

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      We've been playing together for ~20 years, since long before there were any AI tools.

      Once again you're making some wildly inaccurate assumptions.

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

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          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

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          You think I have them captive somehow? Your assumptions are getting weirder and weirder.

          We all have other groups we play with too, this is just the "core" group that's been together longest.

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            For sure, the popular opinion on reddit/Lemmy skews towards absolutely self-hosting everything they can, and multi-trillion dollar tech companies controlling AI skews the opinions of the technology negative. I have a BIL who runs self-hosted AI though (requiring 2 x 4090s in series for his use-case), so it can be done. The tech is only as shit as the user allows it to be (environmental concerns, obviously its pretty objectively shit)

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              For sure, the popular opinion on reddit/Lemmy skews towards absolutely self-hosting everything they can, and multi-trillion dollar tech companies controlling AI skews the opinions of the technology negative. I have a BIL who runs self-hosted AI though (requiring 2 x 4090s in series for his use-case), so it can be done. The tech is only as shit as the user allows it to be (environmental concerns, obviously its pretty objectively shit)

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              I do much of my image work with local models, at least when it comes to trying to get something specific. All audio transcription is done with a local model, and a lot of the summarization and categorization of those transcripts is also local models.

              The comment where I explained this all got downvoted too, though, so yeah. Still a lot of "AI=bad" regardless of self-hosted or not.

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                if isnt already bad enough that SAUDIA arabia and kushner owns it.

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                  The tool calling part might be doable (though I've personally struggled to get it working passably with local models), but if the goal is to tell a compelling story or create an interesting experience, especially if doing so in a very open ended way, that isn't trivial. The only LLM based game I've personally played that seemed good was mostly on rails and partially scripted, most of them just aren't very interesting to play, because the model doesn't have a good idea where it's going with anything and is often not very creative, the stuffy personality of the instruct model seems to infect the dialogue and apparent thought process of the characters. For a specific example I'd recommend watching streams of the game Suck Up, which has a genuinely cool concept and solid execution, but you can see people being frustrated running into its limitations as something to interact with creatively.

                  I've tried a couple times to start game projects involving LLMs, and get the feeling that there is a lot of exploration that needs to be done into what can be done well and where that intersects with what is actually fun. Kind of don't expect EA to be the one to do that.

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                    This will suck so fucking hard

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                    Just look at skate. Now imagine that but somehow worse and even uglier

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                      Your experience counts for jack shit. There is zero evidence that AI is substantially improving efficiency. There is some that suggests its effect is negative.

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                        Who fucking asked for that? WHO??!!

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                        They all went to the same Donald Trump business school.

                        1. Wages are very expensive.

                        2. Fire as many people as you can.

                        3. Shareholders see number go up.

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                          EA is the world's shittiest game company. Just gutter trash all the way through.

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                            This is not going to end well.

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                              I can't start boycotting a company that I've been boycotting for well over a decade.

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                              Last thing I bought from them was Mass Effect (only the first one) circa 2008 I think.

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                                Sure, why not? Its up to gamers to dump them, and only time will tell how this will evolve.

                                It also comes to the point replacing employees with AI.

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                                  Just so people know, you can ignore games by publisher in steam by searching their name in the store, clicking their page, then click the gear icon to ignore. EA who? Ubiwhat?

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                                    For those that don't know, Stability AI is already a zombie, even in the local ML community. SD3 was a flop, they shed all their devs/projects worth anything, and now with Qwen/Longcat SAI is beyond obsolete.

                                    Apparently EA didn't get the message. They invested in a broken, burning company who's only decent results are free and old?

                                    ...Sounds about right.

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                                      Just so people know, you can ignore games by publisher in steam by searching their name in the store, clicking their page, then click the gear icon to ignore. EA who? Ubiwhat?

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                                      I've had EA on ignore for years (whenever they demanded we switch to Origin) and they still showed up on my front page during the last sale !

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                                        I dream of AI being used to generate cool, theme appropriate NPCs for an indie dev that doesn't have an army of talented writers at their disposal.
                                        But honestly let's face it, that's never what they'll aim for. It's all about not paying people, for these assholes. They'll happily fire their talented writers of they can use AI instead, never once wondering who's gonna feed the AI in the first place.
                                        And so it is a matter of principle to say no to AI in general, because you know they'll always pick the worst possible way to use it.

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                                          Will my steam account get banned if I pre-order every one of their games, click play for 5 minutes then instantly refund? I have my faith, but I don't know if they'd see that as abuse of their refund policy.

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                                          Why punish valve? Do that shit through origin.

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