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I'm angry at leftists helping elect trump thus creating MORE genocide.
You mean the genocide that Harris said that she was going to support?
It's always amazing to me that Democrats get mad at people who couldn't stomach voting for genocide, instead of getting mad at the people who ran a pro-genocide campaign.
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I tried. If anyone gets what I'm saying, power to them and the kernel of hope rides in their hands. Otherwise I'm done. Peace.
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"NOTHING, I SAY! NOTHING!"
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You mean the genocide that Harris said that she was going to support?
It's always amazing to me that Democrats get mad at people who couldn't stomach voting for genocide, instead of getting mad at the people who ran a pro-genocide campaign.
Also apparently leftists have to temper our criticism of a genocide by mentioning that Trump is always somehow worse despite there being no evidence that it is materially any worse under him - that's literally a counterfactual - but somehow this person gets to criticise us for mentioning a genocide without acknowledging that it is actually a genocide.
It's genocide denial, but they're not denying it's happening, they're just denying that it's worth talking about, which is maybe worse?
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I'm angry at leftists helping elect trump thus creating MORE genocide.
wrote last edited by [email protected]If mentioning a genocide helped elect Trump, then doing the genocide helped Trump far more, so I don't know why you're not attacking the dems for that.
The genocide charge wouldn't carry any weight if it wasn't true.
Why is this genocide more important to you as a political football than as, you know, a genocide?
You're a genocide denier. You're not denying it's happening, you're just denying it's worth talking about, which is maybe worse.
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Also apparently leftists have to temper our criticism of a genocide by mentioning that Trump is always somehow worse despite there being no evidence that it is materially any worse under him - that's literally a counterfactual - but somehow this person gets to criticise us for mentioning a genocide without acknowledging that it is actually a genocide.
It's genocide denial, but they're not denying it's happening, they're just denying that it's worth talking about, which is maybe worse?
I always read it as "It's not a big deal, as long as it's my team doing it". See also: Sending immigrants to torture prisons, rape, caring about corporations more than people, suppressing the working class, war, etc.
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How is this liberalism?
Liberalism is a political-economic ideology that gives a friendly face to capitalism. While market discipline enforces inhumane measures like a park bench that prevents homeless people from sleeping on it, simultaneously the same society produces the friendly face "solution" of a small, overburdened charity organization to help homeless people.
So the state, which has the authority to enforce public park design, or, you know, regulate housing, won't help. The liberal solution to systemic social inequity is charity.
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You mean the genocide that Harris said that she was going to support?
It's always amazing to me that Democrats get mad at people who couldn't stomach voting for genocide, instead of getting mad at the people who ran a pro-genocide campaign.
Well, enjoy the textbook ethnic cleansing that was announced. On top of the continued genocide. Good job!
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If mentioning a genocide helped elect Trump, then doing the genocide helped Trump far more, so I don't know why you're not attacking the dems for that.
The genocide charge wouldn't carry any weight if it wasn't true.
Why is this genocide more important to you as a political football than as, you know, a genocide?
You're a genocide denier. You're not denying it's happening, you're just denying it's worth talking about, which is maybe worse.
I'm not denying it's worth talking about. I'm saying that "not making the genocide even worse" is more important than feeling morally superior on the internet. Some people obviously disagree.
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I think you might be reading too much into that statement. They were saying that the Democrats have failed to differentiate themselves on that specific issue, and that's an objective fact.
They also said that Trump was the worst option.
I agree with them that we shouldn't have to keep quiet about what a shit human being politician A is, on the off chance that it might cause a complete idiot to vote for politician B who is just as bad on that issue and worse in just about every other way.
An idiot is going to idiot no matter what you do, and it's not on us to cover up for liberals and their shit candidates.
If the Democrats want us to stop discussing what trash human beings their candidates are, there is a simple solution for that. I'm sure you can figure out what that is if you think about it.
No matter where you are in the world, this is going to affect you as well. You should be just as mad at the Democrats for putting an unelectable piece of shit up against Trump as I am, not making excuses for them and blaming leftists. We didn't have Jack shit to do with it.
The DNC had ONE job, put up a candidate that could beat a fascist dictator. That should have been the easiest job in the world.
They fucked up. And now we are all paying for it. Quit trying to shift the blame where it doesn't belong.
The American people had one job, not to elect the fascist. The DNC should have been able to ran a dirty diaper and win. The American people elected the president, not the DNC. This is on them. (Let alone the fact primary voters decide decided who the candidate was, not the DNC).
And now those voters are on the internet blaming the DNC, the voting machines, the weather and a thousand other things. Nah bros, this one is on you all.
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The American people had one job, not to elect the fascist. The DNC should have been able to ran a dirty diaper and win. The American people elected the president, not the DNC. This is on them. (Let alone the fact primary voters decide decided who the candidate was, not the DNC).
And now those voters are on the internet blaming the DNC, the voting machines, the weather and a thousand other things. Nah bros, this one is on you all.
"The American People" are not a monolith, we are actually composed of a diverse group of hundreds of millions of people. Blaming every person in the country for the actions of some is reductive, myopic, and ignorant.
Your uninformed take is about as nuanced as claiming Sophie Scholl was just as responsible for The 3rd Reich as Adolf Hitler because she didn't do more to stop him.
Who knows, given your utter lack of understanding, you might well believe that.
I've already explained in great detail how it actually is the DNC and not the voters who decides who wins the primaries. If your reading comprehension is really that lacking, I'm not sure I can help you with your problem. If you still don't understand try having an adult explain it to you.
Good Luck with whatever your issue is. Hopefully you are fortunate enough to live somewhere that you have access to good mental health treatment.
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I'm not denying it's worth talking about. I'm saying that "not making the genocide even worse" is more important than feeling morally superior on the internet. Some people obviously disagree.
So are you mad at the dems for making the genocide even worse by doing a genocide which helped them lose an election thus making the genocide worse?
Why is it leftsts' fault for telling the truth and not dems' fault for making it true?
Why do we have to be fair to the dems to agree that Trump's genocide would be worse when the dems worked so hard to make "worse" virtually unimaginable?
Why do we have to be fair to you by always saying Trump is worse but you don't have to be fair to us by acknowledging that there is an actual genocide?
Just because you have some mental gymnastics to explain why the dems' genocide is somehow something we shouldn't talk about doesn't mean you're not denying it.
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Well, enjoy the textbook ethnic cleansing that was announced. On top of the continued genocide. Good job!
I will not, as I voted against it, which is more than the Democrats can say
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I will not, as I voted against it, which is more than the Democrats can say
Was there a candidate that was against it? There were two options: genocide and turbo genocide. A vote "against it" (third party) is a vote that helped the winner.
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"The American People" are not a monolith, we are actually composed of a diverse group of hundreds of millions of people. Blaming every person in the country for the actions of some is reductive, myopic, and ignorant.
Your uninformed take is about as nuanced as claiming Sophie Scholl was just as responsible for The 3rd Reich as Adolf Hitler because she didn't do more to stop him.
Who knows, given your utter lack of understanding, you might well believe that.
I've already explained in great detail how it actually is the DNC and not the voters who decides who wins the primaries. If your reading comprehension is really that lacking, I'm not sure I can help you with your problem. If you still don't understand try having an adult explain it to you.
Good Luck with whatever your issue is. Hopefully you are fortunate enough to live somewhere that you have access to good mental health treatment.
I'm not blaming "every single individual person". I'm blaming "the American people", who elected trump. Twice.
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So are you mad at the dems for making the genocide even worse by doing a genocide which helped them lose an election thus making the genocide worse?
Why is it leftsts' fault for telling the truth and not dems' fault for making it true?
Why do we have to be fair to the dems to agree that Trump's genocide would be worse when the dems worked so hard to make "worse" virtually unimaginable?
Why do we have to be fair to you by always saying Trump is worse but you don't have to be fair to us by acknowledging that there is an actual genocide?
Just because you have some mental gymnastics to explain why the dems' genocide is somehow something we shouldn't talk about doesn't mean you're not denying it.
I have acknowledged that there is a genocide hundreds of times, check my comment history, and I can say it again: fuck Israel and fuck the IDF, they are commuting genocide and the world is standing by either helping or not stopping them. I don't see any harm in repeating it again.
Now: The American people decided who wins the election, not dems. Not the DNC. Not George Soros. If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).
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I'm not blaming "every single individual person". I'm blaming "the American people", who elected trump. Twice.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I'm not even sure you know what you are trying to say.
"The American People" includes every single individual person who lives in the U.S. Your statement is a non sequitur.
I certainly didn't elect Trump, either time. Neither did my fellow leftists. Not a single leftist voted for Trump, guaranteed.
It's also obvious you aren't arguing in good faith, so I'm way past the point of giving your lame ass trolling the benefit of the doubt.
Get help.
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I'm not even sure you know what you are trying to say.
"The American People" includes every single individual person who lives in the U.S. Your statement is a non sequitur.
I certainly didn't elect Trump, either time. Neither did my fellow leftists. Not a single leftist voted for Trump, guaranteed.
It's also obvious you aren't arguing in good faith, so I'm way past the point of giving your lame ass trolling the benefit of the doubt.
Get help.
You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually. Like BP is responsible for an oil spill, but Joe the janitor of the local gas station isn't.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
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You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually. Like BP is responsible for an oil spill, but Joe the janitor of the local gas station isn't.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
wrote last edited by [email protected]You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually.
What an ignorant statement lmfao. When you blame an entire group of people for something, that includes all of the individuals within that group. It's like if you said "All Berries are gross" but then I say "What about Blueberries" and you respond with "I didn't mean Blueberries". If you said "Most Berries are gross" or "Some Berries are gross" or "All Berries are gross with the exception of Blueberries" that would be a different story, because words have meanings.
"The American People" are no more responsible for Trump being elected than "The German People" were responsible for the Nazi's or "Everyone who works for BP" is responsible for Oil spills.
Your lame attempt to use semantic wordplay to backpedal your moronic "Leftists Got Trump Elected" claim might have held more weight if the context of the entire conversation wasn't already which specific groups within the U.S. are responsible for Trump being elected.
Blaming "U.S. Leftists" for Trump is every bit as reasonable as blaming "The White Rose" for the Nazi's or "Joe the Janitor" for the Deepwater Horizon. My assertion that lumping all Americans together as if we are a homogeneous group is reductive, myopic, and ignorant stands.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
It sure does, my guess is you were 'educated' here and were bougie enough to afford to emigrate to somewhere in Europe that is a much more normal place to live than the U.S. and now you sit around in your place of privilege judging the people in the country you abandoned when you aren't sniffing your own farts. It's either that or you are one of those uppity Europeans who believes your country has always been perfect and you are better than Americans because you happened to not be born in crazy town and your education system isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Congratulations on your sense of superiority, I'm sure you believe you have earned it.
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You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually.
What an ignorant statement lmfao. When you blame an entire group of people for something, that includes all of the individuals within that group. It's like if you said "All Berries are gross" but then I say "What about Blueberries" and you respond with "I didn't mean Blueberries". If you said "Most Berries are gross" or "Some Berries are gross" or "All Berries are gross with the exception of Blueberries" that would be a different story, because words have meanings.
"The American People" are no more responsible for Trump being elected than "The German People" were responsible for the Nazi's or "Everyone who works for BP" is responsible for Oil spills.
Your lame attempt to use semantic wordplay to backpedal your moronic "Leftists Got Trump Elected" claim might have held more weight if the context of the entire conversation wasn't already which specific groups within the U.S. are responsible for Trump being elected.
Blaming "U.S. Leftists" for Trump is every bit as reasonable as blaming "The White Rose" for the Nazi's or "Joe the Janitor" for the Deepwater Horizon. My assertion that lumping all Americans together as if we are a homogeneous group is reductive, myopic, and ignorant stands.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
It sure does, my guess is you were 'educated' here and were bougie enough to afford to emigrate to somewhere in Europe that is a much more normal place to live than the U.S. and now you sit around in your place of privilege judging the people in the country you abandoned when you aren't sniffing your own farts. It's either that or you are one of those uppity Europeans who believes your country has always been perfect and you are better than Americans because you happened to not be born in crazy town and your education system isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Congratulations on your sense of superiority, I'm sure you believe you have earned it.
What on earth makes you remotely think I'm American?? Holy molly.
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What on earth makes you remotely think I'm American?? Holy molly.
Maybe because you are speaking of things that you obviously haven't the foggiest clue about as if you are an expert on them.
If you are saying you aren't American, that's sad. I guess the Education systems in Europe aren't as grand as they are made out to be.
You know where I'm from, don't be a coward- state where you are from- I'm sure your country and people are 100% perfect and always have been.
