Multiple Teslas set on fire in Germany
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Why do I see this right after watching Retribution
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People are attacking Teslas future income stream.
That means they are attacking the current Tesla share price.
That means they are attacking Musk.
Normal people are compensated by insurance.
Future tesla owners will need to pay higher insurance premiums.
You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.
There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.
It is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.
If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.
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Not everybody has insurance that covers vandalism. Most people have a deductible they need to pay before the insurance kick in. You are forcing people to take time out of their day to take the car to the shop for repairs and/or have to deal with long administrative tasks.
Premiums would not only go up for future Tesla owners.
Not everybody has insurance that covers vandalism.
Tesla owners should upgrade quickly.
Most people have a deductible they need to pay before the insurance kick in.
True. However the main financial impact on current Tesla owners is the falling 2nd hand market price. Current owners are already losing out. Nothing can be done about that.
You are forcing people to take time out of their day to take the car to the shop for repairs and/or have to deal with long administrative tasks.
So sell the Telsa if that is a worry.
Premiums would not only go up for future Tesla owners.
If only Teslas are vandalised then only that brands premiums are affected.
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some of them maybe? surely not all?
All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
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It’s not because we value the wrong thing. It’s because of basic laws that protect us all.
How could they be reclaimed? They are owned by somebody who legally owns them. Unless the owner is found guilty of something that entitles the government to take possession then there’s no legal way to do that.
If someone is going to reclaim it illegally they’re also not going to use that money to help people. You don’t get many Robin Hoods so the criminals that do it are most likely to keep the proceeds for themselves.
How could they be reclaimed? They are owned by somebody who legally owns them. Unless the owner is found guilty of something that entitles the government to take possession then there’s no legal way to do that.
Keep in mind this article is about Teslas in Germany, where expropriation is legal if a judge deems it to be for the greater good. But that's only really possible in theory and thus far doesn't happen in practice
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Yeah because insurance companies are run by great people who are known for helping others.
This is Europe, not USA. We are not getting fucked by insurance companies on a daily basis - only weekly basis.
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You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.
There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.
It is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.
If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.
You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.
And you can attack it even more by dissuading other people too.
There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property
There is a need if faster results are sought.
and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.
Then sell before it's vandalised.
is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.
This is how insurance works. Brands, models and even colors have different premiums.
If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.
It's not about the Tesla owner directly. It's about damaging Musk.
I should state that I am not going to damage anyone's private property, but current and future Tesla owners should be aware of the logic behind the attacks and act appropriately.
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This only hurts the people who own a tesla long term.
If they can't scrap or sell then an insurance write of is the best way to reclaim the value.
There's no way to reclaim anything, only lose money.
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There's no way to reclaim anything, only lose money.
Tesla owners are already losing money in terms of resale value.
Money comes from an insurance write off or a second hand sale.
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some of them maybe? surely not all?
Civilized countries require insurance so that victims aren’t at fault and on the hook, and better ones will even provide it(the province of Québec does the liability portion, for example).
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Damn you’re actually crazy af
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
I can't speak for Germany but my car insurance wouldn't cover arson. It only covers liability, so if I cause damage or personal injury with my vehicle then my insurance kicks in and covers the other person's damages. If I wreck my car in a single vehicle collision, a tree falls on it, or someone who doesn't have insurance hits me then I get nothing. That is collision and/or comprehensive insurance that cover those situations respectively.
However I know that if I were to lease a vehicle, I would need to get comprehensive insurance as part of the lease agreement. These were probably leased so their insurance might cover it, definitely not all of those Tesla owners though.
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It’s not because we value the wrong thing. It’s because of basic laws that protect us all.
How could they be reclaimed? They are owned by somebody who legally owns them. Unless the owner is found guilty of something that entitles the government to take possession then there’s no legal way to do that.
If someone is going to reclaim it illegally they’re also not going to use that money to help people. You don’t get many Robin Hoods so the criminals that do it are most likely to keep the proceeds for themselves.
It’s because of basic laws that protect us all.
The fuck? It's illegal to burn these cars too, smart person.
Taken from other comment debunking you people:
You can steal the vehicle too. You can discuss and support policies that take the assets of the ruling class by force.
Sad this needs to be spelled out for you people, but I don’t expect more at this point.
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I like your how nonsensical trying to connect unrelated things together, did you forget your meds. How do you propose to acquire something owned by some else that doesn't belong to you
There's nothing unrelated about this.
You people just succumbed to your herd mentality and there is no force in the universe that can overcome it.
Really puts things into perspective for anyone with a brain. I can tell the next generation is taking hold, and it isn't pretty.
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Not everybody has insurance that covers vandalism.
Tesla owners should upgrade quickly.
Most people have a deductible they need to pay before the insurance kick in.
True. However the main financial impact on current Tesla owners is the falling 2nd hand market price. Current owners are already losing out. Nothing can be done about that.
You are forcing people to take time out of their day to take the car to the shop for repairs and/or have to deal with long administrative tasks.
So sell the Telsa if that is a worry.
Premiums would not only go up for future Tesla owners.
If only Teslas are vandalised then only that brands premiums are affected.
Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
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the magamobile… i know it has its issues, but the sad thing is, if you want an electric car as a person who does not care about car-people-things, the magamobile is one of the best options in terms of efficiency. ALSO in terms of used vehicles, you can get teslas so bloody cheap rn and for people who just want to get from A to B with Comfort and ease, you dont have so many other options.
At some point you have to draw a line, and the car sold by the guy who’s directly helping to destroy the US, helping the AFD in Germany get more power, and cutting aid to so many other countries which will lead to millions of deaths is a pretty fucking easy line to draw. Besides, as the saying goes, “electric cars aren’t here to save the planet, they’re here to save cars” so take public transit and fight for it if you don’t have it(also this is in Germany and Europe generally has more options than the backwater that is the US).
There are plenty of other options that aren’t so boldly rotten as Tesla, too. People not wanting even the slightest inconvenience is how we get into these messes and it’s time to buck up and deal with it.
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You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.
And you can attack it even more by dissuading other people too.
There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property
There is a need if faster results are sought.
and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.
Then sell before it's vandalised.
is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.
This is how insurance works. Brands, models and even colors have different premiums.
If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.
It's not about the Tesla owner directly. It's about damaging Musk.
I should state that I am not going to damage anyone's private property, but current and future Tesla owners should be aware of the logic behind the attacks and act appropriately.
Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
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Yeah ICE cars catch fire 61x more often than EVs.
Facts are important. We want people to switch to EVs. Spreading falsehoods because it helps your own side short term is wrong.
ICE cars are filled with gasoline and function by blowing it up, the risk is clear. EVs should not be catching fire.
Also yea, I want people to use public transportation, actually. And I want villages to return, not these horrendous sprawling “small towns” where, despite having less stuff than my Montréal neighbourhood, it’s a huge pain to get anywhere and you need a car at least simply because too many jobs that could be remote aren’t.
